Dutch Cape Colony economy, politics, society etc.

abc123

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1815-1818 period

In this period, governer managed to stabilise his colony. Imigration from Europe was continued and number of White settlers was now about 60 000. Jacob de Mist decided to organise his military forces, he had infantry regiment ( 1st Kaap infantry regiment ) in Kaapstadt, with small detachments in Uitenhage and Tulbagh. There was also cavalry regiment- 1st Kaap cavalry regiment with garrison in Graaf Reinet.

On the other hand, local Commandos, consisting of all able White man in the district, continued to have great importance.

There was no major problems in relations with Britain or natives. British founded two forts in eastern area, one is named East London and the other d'Urban. That led to conflicts with Xhosa and Zulu tribes.
 

Marius

alphaboi867 said:
It depends on which China they came from. South Africa had very close relations with the Republic of China (aka Nationalist China, aka Taiwan) and it's nationals were afforded the same honorary white status the Japanese were.
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I know that, but in general Chinese weren't considered 'white'.

For the purposes of affirmative action and so on, Chinese people in South Africa are considered 'black'.
 

Marius

abc123 said:
In this period, governer managed to stabilise his colony. Imigration from Europe was continued and number of White settlers was now about 60 000. Jacob de Mist decided to organise his military forces, he had infantry regiment ( 1st Kaap infantry regiment ) in Kaapstadt, with small detachments in Uitenhage and Tulbagh. There was also cavalry regiment- 1st Kaap cavalry regiment with garrison in Graaf Reinet.

On the other hand, local Commandos, consisting of all able White man in the district, continued to have great importance.

There was no major problems in relations with Britain or natives. British founded two forts in eastern area, one is named East London and the other d'Urban. That led to conflicts with Xhosa and Zulu tribes.
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It's unlikely that there will be clashes with the Zulu, who were in Natal.

Have the British expanded that far up the coast, or are they still in what is OTL's Eastern Cape?
 

abc123

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Marius said:
It's unlikely that there will be clashes with the Zulu, who were in Natal.

Have the British expanded that far up the coast, or are they still in what is OTL's Eastern Cape?
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Both. East London and Durban. Around Durban are clashes with Zulus. ( I meant British clashes with Zulus )
 
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abc123

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Fifth Kaap-Xhosa war

The fifth frontier war was also known as the "War of Nxele". A difficulty between the Kaap Colony government and the Xhosa arose in 1817, the immediate cause of which was an attempt by the colonial authorities to enforce the restitution of some stolen cattle. Due in part to overcrowding, a civil war broke out between the Ngqika and the Gcaleka Xhosa. As the Cape had signed a defence treaty with Ngqika, it was legally required to respond to Ngqika's request for military assistance in 1818.

The Xhosa prophet-chief Makana Nxele (or Makana) emerged at this time and promised “to turn bullets into water.” He led the Xhosa armies in several attacks. On 22 April 1819, Maqana with 10,000 Xhosa attacked Grahamsstaad, then held by a garrison of 350 troops. The garrison was able to repulse the attack only after timely support was received from a Khoikhoi group led by Jan Boesak. Maqana suffered the loss of 1,000 soldiers. The war ended in 1819.

Maqana was eventually captured and imprisoned on Robben Island. In peace agreement Xhosas promised to return stolen cattle and recognised border on Great Fish River.

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Cells in Robben Island Penitentiary, the Kaap's oldest and most notorious prison, used since mid-17th century

Magana actually managed to escape the prison, but drowned in Table Bay.
 

abc123

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Colony of Bay of Natal

In 1817 and 1818 Britain founded two settlements in area east of Cape. First was named Port George* and the second Fort Natal**. Britain also had a number of forts in the area built during Napoleonic wars, but this two settlements were first cities planned for permanent settlement.

Unfortunatly, founding of these two colonies sparked a war with natives. Zulus, with their fearsome king Shaka, were not really happy with this British attempt, so they attacked the Fort Natal in 1825. The British managed to beat them back, but not without help of naval artillery and the fact that the fort was on peninsula. Because Shaka had more pressing issues at the time ( raiding other tribes in interior, that allowed British settlers there to survive ).

Xhosa's were also less than happy with fort Port George, but since they were allready in civil war and war with the Dutch in Kaap Colony, they haven't attacked them until 1824. The British have managed to beat them back, with large casualties, but the future for two settlements looked bleak at most, especially considering that Shaka's Zulus were starting to spread across Tugela River and started harassing British settlers around Fort Natal.

After 1821, British encouraged about 5000 settlers from Britain to settle there, mostly in Fort Natal area but many of them were now starting to think did they make the right decision.


* OTL East London
** OTL Durban
 
ramones1986

ramones1986

abc123 said:
Sorry, either my English isn't good enough or whatever, but I really don't understand what you want to say...:confused:
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You posted the Prinzeflag for this timeline, and I suggested that you should add the OTL Cape Colony coat of arms to be more distinctive.
 

abc123

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ramones1986 said:
You posted the Prinzeflag for this timeline, and I suggested that you should add the OTL Cape Colony coat of arms to be more distinctive.
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NOW I understand you. So, you mean that Prinzeflag is too similar with the Dutch flag? But OTL, Boer republics used it...
 

Marius

abc123 said:
NOW I understand you. So, you mean that Prinzeflag is too similar with the Dutch flag? But OTL, Boer republics used it...
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They didn't actually use the Prinsenvlag, although Orange was an important colour.

The Vierkleur used a variation of the modern Dutch flag as did Natalia and the OFS.
 

abc123

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Marius said:
They didn't actually use the Prinsenvlag, although Orange was an important colour.

The Vierkleur used a variation of the modern Dutch flag as did Natalia and the OFS.
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Indeed. But South Africa used such flag ( orange-white-blue ).
 

Parma

Nice idea of a thread, but so far I did not read ( almost ) any thing. I do think this is more part of the pre-1900 part.
Can you come up with a more conclusive time line, instead of some incidents with British, Xhosa, Zulu etc. and a flag.
You present the new Kingdom of the Netherlands with a real migration colony, based on a stong European presence. Not just a 'sugar flint' colony or profit colony like the Indonesian Archilpellago, Suriname or Gold Coast.
This will have a potential large implication on the Netherlands, up to 1830 comprising the Belgium, Luxembourg and Netherland. A kingdom with an emerging industry, a huge need for markets, etc. You should include this in you thread.
You want to descibe a culture and sociaty of a Dutch held Cape colony, there for you need to decribe the 19th and early 20th century developments. And there are a lot of developments possible.
 
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