I'm embarrassed to to that I wrote these before I finished reading the rest of thread but thank you for answering them anyway.
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I'm embarrassed to to that I wrote these before I finished reading the rest of thread but thank you for answering them anyway.
I think this idea could still work in a TL where Facwett still survives.Chapter 7
As was alluded to earlier in the 1950s, RKO General had purchased the comic book imprint Charlton Comics to ensure that the comic book version of its at the time ever-popular kids’ superhero program Captain Video would always have an outlet to be printed in. The first imprint to license the program, Fawcett Comics, had pulled out of the comics industry after the disastrous fallout of the settlement of the National Comics Publications v. Fawcett Publications case that saw the publisher pay a settlement and cease publication of its most-popular title Captain Marvel for allegedly having infringed on the copyright of Superman.
Charlton, with the newfound corporate resources backing it up, would begin to hit a stride as the comics industry entered the Silver Age in the early 1960s. Shortly after DC Comics successfully revived the superhero comic niche, Charlton introduced what would go on to be their flagship hero in Captain Atom. Captain Atom, whose character name was Allen Adam, was a technician in a special experimental rocket when it accidentally launched with him trapped inside. Adam was atomized when the rocket exploded while entering the upper atmosphere. However, he somehow gained superpowers that included the ability to reform his body safely on the ground. He would be joined by the Blue Beetle, a character that was a revival of a previous comic imprint’s character who was originally comic relief but went on to be very similar to Marvel’s Iron Man, the Question, who was designed by famous artist Steve Ditko, and Son of Vulcan, a similar character to Marvel’s Thor, to go along with Video.
This lineup of characters, along with the other assorted horror, romantic and other types of comics that every comic imprint engaged in at the time, were relatively successful, though not enough to move Charlton beyond third place in the American comic industry at any point in the Silver or Bronze Ages. It hardly mattered, however, with the corporate backing of RKO General ensuring that they would always have the resources to be competitive, a lot more than could be said for smaller, independent imprints like Fox, Dell, Gold Key and others that began to be winnowed out of the market in the late 50s and throughout the 60s and 70s.
During the Bronze Age of Comics in the 1970s, Charlton grouped several of its heroes such as Atom, Blue Beetle, Question, and Captain Atom ancillary character and sometime love interest Nightshade, into a team, the Sentinels of Justice, later shortened to the Sentinels to avoid any unnecessary resemblance to DC’s Justice League of America. In actuality, the team much more resembled Marvel’s Avengers, a fact that would prove key in events in the late 1970s. Also, in the mid-70s, Charlton convinced budding horror novelist and sometime comic enthusiast Stephen King to come on board as a writer and bring his Dark Tower character the Gunslinger to the medium with his own title. Charlton kept him and Video, as space or interdimensionally based characters, however, out of the Sentinels or any other team ups and had them and any other space based characters interact mostly with each other and only occasionally with the earthbound characters.
In the late 1970s, an event happened that had major ramifications in the comic book industry and led to the further winnowing of the smaller players in the industry as well as changes within what was now widely regarded as the big 3 players. DC planned a large ramp-up of its output for 1978 which it dubbed the “DC Explosion.” Since the early 1970s, DC had seen its dominance of the market overtaken by Marvel Comics, partly because Marvel had significantly increased the number of titles that it published (both original material and reprint books). In large part, the DC Explosion was a plan to overtake Marvel by using its own strategy. DC's expansion actually began in earnest in 1975, when the company debuted 12 titles in the spring and summer, followed by four more titles by the end of the year. DC added 14 titles in 1976 and four more in 1977. All of this, however, ended up backfiring on DC as it suffered poor sales from the winter of 1977 all the way through 1978. In addition, the flooding of the market caused sales to drop industrywide, as the effects of the late 70s economic stagnation and harsh blizzards in the winter of 1977-78 combined to tamp down demand for comics at the same time that printing and paper costs increased.
As a result, DC and Marvel retrenched and cancelled titles while many of the smaller companies simply went belly-up and exited the market. Charlton, however, or really the RKO paymasters, saw opportunity. RKO executives ordered Charlton to increase output of Sentinels material along with the space-based characters, in the face of declining profitability and even losses. The aim of Charlton’s mini-explosion wasn’t short-term profitability, it was to rid the market of a competitor in its niche, namely Marvel’s Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy titles. The gambit worked, as Marvel would go on to cancel most of the titles related to these franchises by 1980 and began to concentrate on their most successful titles in Spider-Man and the X-Men along with lesser known properties and licensed material that it had the rights to at the time. While the Avengers and Guardians titles along with the individual heroes therein would be brought back in time, they never again would be emphasized characters in the Marvel pantheon while the Sentinels would have their popularity reinforced in the late Bronze Age and beyond with cartoons and live action shows on the DuMont Network as well as their ongoing comic titles and tie in merchandizing.
I think this idea could still work in a TL where Facwett still survives.
I was mainly focusing on the whole Captain Video/Fawcett/Charlton thing and how in @THeaven's timeline Charlton had no corporate backers (as far as I know). In your TL DuMont pulls Captain Video from Fawcett because of their court case against National but nothing else. In @THeaven's timeline Fawcett win there case just like OTL but with no appeal from National. That last aspect can work with @neamathla's TL.In that TL they've already gone down the road of having Paramount's '70s attempt at a TV network survive and become the fourth network.
I don't care fawcett comics, i thought this tl finally was revived...but sadly not yetI was mainly focusing on the whole Captain Video/Fawcett/Charlton thing and how in @THeaven's timeline Charlton had no corporate backers (as far as I know). In your TL DuMont pulls Captain Video from Fawcett because of their court case against National but nothing else. In @THeaven's timeline Fawcett win there case just like OTL but with no appeal from National. That last aspect can work with @neamathla's TL.
But @AnonymousSauce is back so an update may be close, hopefully.I don't care fawcett comics, i thought this tl finally was revived...but sadly not yet
BTW @AnonymousSauce, I think even though @Dan1988 is not here trying to release the full Part III, I think we have enough material to suggest how public television/southern New England might develop for the next update.
But @AnonymousSauce is back so an update may be close, hopefully.
Fair enough, I sympathize with you, most of my work is done at the library too. I'm surprised that your school hasn't offered laptops or Macbooks for teleschooling.It's been rough for me with COVID shutting down the libraries and my college, meaning no desktop access, but I'm still considered an essential worker so I'm still putting in my 40+ hours a week at work. I'll try to work on something this weekend but no promises as to when I'll have the next update out.
It's been rough for me with COVID shutting down the libraries and my college, meaning no desktop access, but I'm still considered an essential worker so I'm still putting in my 40+ hours a week at work. I'll try to work on something this weekend but no promises as to when I'll have the next update out.
After reading the Paramount post on the Fawcett Survives TL I've come to the conclusion that that doesn't preclude the survival of DuMont and making PTVS just a five network.In that TL they've already gone down the road of having Paramount's '70s attempt at a TV network survive and become the fourth network.
I'll get around to it; don't worry.I'm just swamped with stuff.
Indeed, the Boston commercial TV stations were more than cooperative in lending out space so that WGBH could continue making programs, even WIHS (as long as it was able to use the space it lent to WGBH for its Sunday TV Mass). If the fire still happened ITTL, then that type of cooperation would continue, and for more ways than one. At the time, up until the 1980s or so, television was seen to have some sort of public-service value in addition, in a North American context, to having a sense of place in the community a broadcaster served. As the central focus of this TL, the DuMont Network would have a role to play in helping the station get back on air, much like what the Ford Foundation and many countless of other New Englanders did (to the point of having penny drives in the schools and other small-scale fundraising efforts), but the commercial stations also stepped up in many ways (including even doing promotions for the building of WGBH’s then-new studios on 125 Western Ave., now part of Harvard University and since relocated to 1 Guest Street in the Allston-Brighton neighborhood). Meanwhile, while WGBH is trying to find its feet, once a sizeable network got formed ITTL, this time around they could help ensure that the network would still have enough programming to fill the schedule, including NET output, even if it was different from what would normally come on from WGBH. To use a modern anachronism, aiding the LICBC would give other Boston-area TV stations the corporate social responsibility it would have to ensure good PR for themselves and continued collaboration with a station and a network that emits programming the other stations usually do not carry because they are not profitable. For WGBH in its modern form to continue ITTL, the fire is a necessary thing – it’s as part of New England regional history as the 1938 hurricane was.What needs to be mentioned here is that the fire was THE headline news in the Boston area for months on end. Despite having everything the station built up gone up in smoke, it was still determined to get back on air. Because it was before public broadcasting became in its thing with educational broadcasting on a shoestring budget, every scrap of cash was essential in rebuilding the station. The fundraising drives were a massive sensation in the press and elsewhere, and commercial TV did its bit until WGBH got temporary studios up and running for a bit until new permanent studios were completed, including even in the Museum of Science. Here, too, if WGBH cannot considate into temporary studios ITTL and thus remain encamped in various areas throughout Boston, the local commercial TV stations, along with the existing LICBC members, would feel like they are helping out as stakeholders. TTL's WNAC, for example - the DuMont affiliate - was one station IOTL which played host to some WGBH programming. DuMont could contribute much more ITTL if it wanted too, including new equipment - even if surplus - since like the other stations in Boston WGBH would be seen not as a competitor but as a complement. Much like what we are seeing now with Notre Dame's restoration, it's possible each of the stations try to outdo each other in big-money donations to WGBH as a prestige project (for the Boston market is still small enough that everyone involved with the industry still know each other). That is due to the strength of the impact WGBH had in Eastern New England even within the span of a couple of years. WGBH in TTL would be more reliant on its flegdling network of stations, which could change the direction of the station's future - which once I can use a physical keyboard I can elaborate in detail. It also will depend on if the FCC can yank WHDH off the air due to problems with the Boston Herald and where the noncommercial channels are placed. All would be essential in redefining educational broadcasting ITTL.
I'll probably need to look thru my old notes and reread the TL before I make a final decision, but I don't see any reason not to sign off on what you have put together there @Dan1988
Source: <https://www.wbur.org/inside/highlights-history>WBUR-FM went on the air at 4 p.m. on March 1, 1950, as a 400-watt non-commercial educational station licensed to Boston University. In its early years, the WBUR staff comprised amateurs, professionals, volunteers and students.
Through the 1960s, more and more radio professionals joined WBUR and gradually transformed the station’s format. By 1971, WBUR had enough full-time employees to qualify for status as a public radio station and applied to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) for certification.
In 1980, the station began to receive programming from NPR via satellite. By 1982, WBUR had established its identity as a news station, with NPR's Morning Edition and All Things Considered broadcast each weekday and local news programming produced by a staff of young reporters.
Source: <https://www.bostonradio.org/stations/70510>With its debut on October 6, 1951, WGBH became one of the first noncommercial stations in America to operate without direct ties to an educational institution. While wags joked that the calls stood for “God Bless Harvard”, and the station was supported in part by donations from Harvard (including the transmitter site on Great Blue Hill in Milton), it was operated by the “WGBH Educational Foundation”, which eventually would include representation from most of the educational institutions in the Boston area.
The foundation was an outgrowth of the Lowell Institute, whose history even then dated back more than a century. The Institute's Cooperative Broadcasting Council began offering educational programming over Boston's commercial AM stations in the thirties before seeking a station of its own.
With funding provided by the Institute, a transmitter donated by Edwin Howard Armstrong himself, and studio space in Boston's Symphony Hall, WGBH was off to a strong start, helped by the popularity of its live Boston Symphony Orchestra concerts, a tradition that continues today.
Under the leadership of Ralph Lowell and Hartford Gunn, WGBH offered a wide variety of educational programming, ranging from speeches and panel discussions to classical music to jazz and folk. WGBH was the key station of the Eastern Educational Network, an early interconnection of the first few educational radio stations in the region.
With the establishment of WGBH-TV in 1955, much of the explicitly “educational” function of WGBH radio was shifted to the TV side, with the radio station becoming increasingly focused on music programming.
After the fire that destroyed the WGBH studios at 84 Massachusetts Avenue in Cambridge in the sixties, the WGBH stations moved across the Charles River to a new home on Western Avenue in Allston. (The old location, on the MIT campus, would later become the home of MIT's Stratton Student Center.) WGBH radio became an early member of National Public Radio and a regular contributor of programming to the NPR system.
WGBH's best-known program through the seventies, eighties, and most of the nineties was Robert J. Lurtsema's “Morning pro musica”, heard at its height on a network that extended from Maine to Albany. The station's nightly jazz and blues programming also found a receptive audience, thanks in part to the station's 100-kW signal that reaches from Rhode Island to New Hampshire.
Come 1968 would DuMont pick up Gene Roddenberry's Assignment: Earth after CBS turns it down?