Dreams Come True (A collaborative continuation of American Magic)

[OldNavy1988]

Special thanks to @Dreadpool for reminding me about the page count.

For the original American Magic, feel free to read the original thread at the link below:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/american-magic-a-different-history-of-disney.397048/

So basically, this is a continuation of that thread, except I will now open this thread for collaboration.

Before I do that, let's remind everyone of how the media landscape looks as of 2004 ITTL:

The Walt Disney Company
BRANDS:
Walt Disney Pictures
Hyperion Pictures
Disney Parks
NBC
Marvel
Atari
Harvey Comics
Image Comics
Hyperion Records
Death Row Records

FRANCHISES:
Marvel
Harvey/Noveltoons
Saturday Night Live
Star Wars
Indiana Jones
Punky Brewster
Back to the Future
Beetlejuice
Roger Rabbit
The Land Before Time
Saved by the Bell
Nightmare Before Christmas

MCA
BRANDS:
Universal Pictures
Gemini Comics (Formerly Charlton and Fawcett)
Gemini Animation (Formerly DePatie-Freleng)
MCA Records
Universal Studios Home Video
Universal Resorts (Formerly MCA Recreational)
UPN (50%)

FRANCHISES:
Universal Monsters
Jaws
Gemini superheroes
Jurassic Park
Harry Potter
Battlestar Galactica

ABC
BRANDS:
Hanna-Barbera
Touchstone Pictures
Malibu Comics
ESPN
Showtime
The Movie Channel
A&E
History Channel

FRANCHISES:
Flintstones
Jetsons
Jonny Quest
Scooby-Doo
Sailor Moon
Hey Arnold
Larry and Steve
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

Amblin Partners
BRANDS:
Amblin Entertainment
DreamWorks SKG
Geffen Pictures
Geffen Records
Industrial Light and Magic

FRANCHISES:
Tiny Toons
Animaniacs
Toonsylvania
Shrek
Ren and Stimpy

Time-Life Inc
BRANDS:
20th Century Fox
Comedy Central
HBO
Cinemax
Sports Illustrated
Time Magazine
Life Magazine
Headline News
Fox Network (Known IOTL as FX)

FRANCHISES:
Planet of the Apes
Catfish Bend
Home Alone

Jim Henson Entertainment
BRANDS:
Jim Henson Pictures
New Line Cinema
Henson International Television (HIT)

FRANCHISES:
Muppets
Xenomorphs (Known IOTL as Aliens)
Nightmare on Elm Street
Predator
Mortal Kombat
Final Destination
Farscape

Corman Enterprises
BRANDS:
Grand Diamond Pictures
Family Home Entertainment
Ruby-Spears

FRANCHISES:
An American Tail
The Wonder Years
Child's Play
Pulp Fiction
Steven Universe

CBS
BRANDS:
Columbia Pictures
TriStar Pictures
National Comics
Screen Gems Animation

FRANCHISES:
Superman
Batman
Ghostbusters
TMNT (Film rights only)
Teen Titans

Paramount Communications
BRANDS:
Paramount Pictures
SEGA
Paramount Parks
Nelvana
Simon & Schuster
Valiant Comics
UPN (50%)

FRANCHISES:
Star Trek
Godfather
Mighty the Armadillo
The Simpsons

Turner Broadcasting
BRANDS:
CNN
TBS
TNT
MTV
United Artists
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
All American Comics
Cartoon Network
Film Roman
World Championship Wrestling

FRANCHISES:
Wizard of Oz
Tom and Jerry
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
The Flash
James Bond
Pink Panther
Rocky
Garfield (screen rights only)
Beavis and Butthead
Spongebob Squarepants
Shezow

USA Network Group
BRANDS:
USA Network
Nickelodeon
VH1
SciFi Channel
Hard Copy Network
Spike TV
USA Cartoon Express

FRANCHISES
USA Up All Night
Nickelodeon Movies
All That
Rugrats
The Wild Thornberrys
Ed, Edd n' Eddy
The Loud House

WarnerMedia
BRANDS:
Warner Bros
Rankin Bass
Lorimar
Archie Comics
Warner Parks

FRANCHISES:
Looney Tunes
Gremlins
Thundercats
Rainbow Brite
Archie
Full House
Family Matters

Hemdale Film Corporation
FRANCHISES:
Rocky and Bullwinkle
Thomas the Tank Engine
Doug
Addams Family
UHF
Terminator
RoboCop
The Matrix

PepsiCo
BRANDS:
RKO Radio Pictures
The Hub
Vestron Pictures (defunct)
Frito-Lay
Quaker Oats
YUM! Restaurants (KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, Jack in the Box)

FRANCHISES:
King Kong
Godzilla (North American rights only)
Lassie
Lone Ranger
Ace Ventura
Pacific Rim​

 

[Tannenberg]

The best Pop Culture Timeline on the site version 2.0 (& Knuckles). You know what I'm pretty excited about? The Internet. I wonder how the Alternate Internet Sites/Celebrities are going to look like What would be of people like James Rolfe or Doug Walker in this timeline? Who would take their places as influential figure on the Internet Pop Culture?

 

[OldNavy1988]

The best Pop Culture Timeline on the site version 2.0 (& Knuckles). You know what I'm pretty excited about? The Internet. I wonder how the Alternate Internet Sites/Celebrities are going to look like What would be of people like James Rolfe or Doug Walker in this timeline? Who would take their places as influential figure on the Internet Pop Culture?

Do you have a top ten or top five of pop culture TL's on this site?

Doug and James will still be big web celebs. So will Lewis Lovhaug, aka Linkara.

 

[TimeEnough]

Do you have a top ten or top five of pop culture TL's on this site?

Doug and James will still be big web celebs. So will Lewis Lovhaug, aka Linkara.

How will the "Change the Channel" controversy go down?

 

[Tannenberg]

Do you have a top ten or top five of pop culture TL's on this site?

Doug and James will still be big web celebs. So will Lewis Lovhaug, aka Linkara.

Well, it's Dirty Laundry, Massive Multiplayer on the New Milenium, That Wacky Redhead and yours of course. Not my particular favourite genre of alternate history but they are always an interesting read. I hope Doug is not dumb enough to associate with Michaud in this reality. Please tell me, that The Room exists in this timeline.

 

[OldNavy1988]

How will the "Change the Channel" controversy go down?

Well, it's Dirty Laundry, Massive Multiplayer on the New Milenium, That Wacky Redhead and yours of course. Not my particular favourite genre of alternate history but they are always an interesting read. I hope Doug is not dumb enough to associate with Michaud in this reality. Please tell me, that The Room exists in this timeline.

Hopefully there can be a plausible way to stop Michaud before the controversy even starts.

Yes, the Room does exist.

Anyways, the thread is now open for collaborators!

 

[Tannenberg]

About the Michaud things, I have some ideas:

April 2008

Doug Walker: So, let me get this straight. They arrested Mike this morning?
Rob Walker: Yeah. I heard the news just an hour ago. Apparently, he got into an argument with a female employee of a supermarket for some stupid shit and punched her on the face
Doug Walker: What the fuck? Tell me you are making this shit up.
Rob Walker: I wish. Apparently, he was already charged for assualting a female co-worker on Circuit City They released him on bail but he apparently he forgot to go to court.
Doug Walker: Ellis and Bargaav knew anything about this?
Rob Walker: Bargaav told me he was already kinda of douche when they meet him. He got drunk once on Ellis's house and said that he admired John K for "putting those bitches on their place"
Doug Walker: Jesus Christ, I told you we couldn't trust this guy. Why the fuck they didn't tell us all this before?
Rob Walker: Ellis told me that he knew about this but they thought that he knew a couple things to help us in our business. Bargaav didn't knew very much about the incident
Doug Walker: Well, at least that is not going to bite us in the ass later. We should have knew about this asshole before working with him
Rob Walker: I know, I know
Doug Walker: So what we're gonna do now? I already planned to quit my job. I don't want to be a janitor my entire life.
Rob Walker: I will think about something. We're not gonna quit that easily Doug. I can trust Bargaav but i'll keep an eye open to see what Ellis does behind our backs
Doug Walker: Good
Rob Walker: That left a very bad taste on my mouth. Anyway, let's move on with our lives and leave that dumbass in jail before he get us in more shit. What is going be the next review? The Power Rangers's movie?
Doug Walker: Nah, I like that one. I was thinking Princess Mononoke just for the shitty dub.
Rob Walker: Ok.We'll start the script tomorrow. I'm really tired today


March 2010
(Top 11 Nostalgia Critic's Fuckups)

Nostalgia Critic: Number Five
Douchey McNitpick (has more of John-K reminiscence): The Original Princess Mononoke was actually a really good movie you ignorant jackass
Nostalgia Critic: All right!!! All right!!! I get it, guys. I like the original too but the movie itself wasn't the point of the review. It was the shittty dub that tries to hard to be cool and hip. Hell that was cringe as hell even for 90's standars+!!
Douchey McNitpick: Uhh, don't hide your ignorance behind stupid jokes you racist plebeian
Nostalgia Critic:... Have they ever told you that you look like John K?
Douchey: ... Well...
Nostalgia Critic: That's why I thought

 

[OldNavy1988]

@Tannenberg

And don't forget that the Trump dub of Mononoke has that infamous rapping dog inserted randomly.

Let's recap the John K saga for those who may not be willing to read the entire original thread:

September 9, 1955: The birth of the demon spawn in a small Quebec town.

Late 1978: Expelled from Sheridan College in Ontario, Canada.

1979: With Filmation out of business, John's career actually begins at Hanna-Barbera.

1979-83: John's tenure at HB.

1983-85: John's tenure at Gemini Animation.

February/March 1985: At this time, Gemini's offices were at MCA Tower at the western edge of the Universal Studios backlot. John pitches a storyboard for Jem and the Holograms, which Universal Pictures would release for Thanksgiving '87. Sitting in on the pitch are Scott Shaw!, Mark Evanier, Larry Houston, John Semper Jr, Eric Lewald, Julia Jane Roberts-Lewald, Floyd Norman and Daniel Abbott*. In the proposed scene, which of course was left of the movie, Jerrica was to practice her singing and dance moves in little else but bra and panties right before receiving the terrible news of her father's death. Julia calmly reminds John that Jem is supposed to be geared towards young girls and that the scene he storyboarded was totally inappropriate. Anyways, John throws a huge fit and is promptly escorted off the lot. Oh yeah, and John stood in the middle of Lankershim Blvd ranting and raving. John flees to New York before Gemini execs Ted Berman and Art Stevens could properly discipline him.

*Fictional person.

1985-96: John's tenure at Trump Manhattan, the last studio he'd work for.

1987-90: The original run of Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures.

1991-96: The original run of the Ren and Stimpy show.

1993: Citing creative differences, Bob Camp resigns from Trump Manhattan and accepts a job at Gemini.

1994: Christina Ricci, then 14, hosts The Making of Ren and Stimpy. The hour and a half Nickelodeon special took viewers on a tour of Trump's New Rochelle facilities. Afterwards, Ricci files a police report accusing John of inappropriate behavior. Unfortunately, the New Rochelle PD refuses to follow up.

1994-96: The timeframe in which John stalked [Blair]. In a journal entry dated c. September 1995 he writes: "If I can't have the real Christina Ricci, the little look-alike next door will do just fine!"

Early 1996: John goes on a drug and alcohol induced coma.

Late May 1996: John kidnaps [Blair] from New Rochelle High School. For the next month and change, John would hold the then 15 year old captive in his basement.

July 3, 1996: Trump Manhattan releases the Ren and Stimpy movie.

July 19, 1996: John leads police on low speed chase in a white Ford Bronco with [Blair] as his captive. The chase ends in Albany with the girl rescued alive. She would be placed on suicide watch for the next few days and returns home on August 1.

November 1996: UPN airs The John Kricfalusi Story, a dramatized TV movie heavily based on pre-trial innuendos.

June 1997: After a lengthy trial with heavy media coverage, John is convicted and sentenced to decades behind bars at USP Leavenworth.

April 1998: [Blair] pulls down a statue of John at Optimum Holdings' rededication of the Worlds of Wonder theme park in Las Vegas.

November 1999: On a prison phone, John tries to bully Steven Universe creator Rachel Stone* during her appearance on Larry King Live.

*fictional person

August 2002: John escapes from Leavenworth in the middle of a prison riot.

October 21, 2002: John tries to abduct another girl, except this girl is a boy in drag. John is then killed by that same boy at a White Plains, NY mall.

 

[Goldwind2]

Chaotix 4 is coming out

 

[Goldwind2]

Oldnavy do you reamber my idea o the 1996 toonstruck the video game being butterfly but get released in 1996 but a toonstruk movie coming out in the 2000's. I think would be a good idea for lord nerfious to be a former animator who ideas keep getting rejected as to dark and twisted. One day the demented aniamtor found a way to turn him self into an cartoon and then he created the mavolator to remake the cartoon demison in his own twisted image. Lord nerous would orcourse be a john k parody. Instead of having fluffy fluffy bun bun be in league the way of drew and flux she just get in there while obinxouly flatting her cuteness. How at the end of the movie bun bun steal parts form the malovolator. This opens up a possalbe segual where bun bun has reverse the malvoltr in a boreator. She is using to turn the cartoon demisnon into a gray depprsing place with the expeciton of her medow in the hops it will make her the cutest and most popular cartoon charter in the world

 

[OldNavy1988]

Oldnavy do you reamber my idea o the 1996 toonstruck the video game being butterfly but get released in 1996 but a toonstruk movie coming out in the 2000's. I think would be a good idea for lord nerfious to be a former animator who ideas keep getting rejected as to dark and twisted. One day the demented aniamtor found a way to turn him self into an cartoon and then he created the mavolator to remake the cartoon demison in his own twisted image. Lord nerous would orcourse be a john k parody. Instead of having fluffy fluffy bun bun be in league the way of drew and flux she just get in there while obinxouly flatting her cuteness. How at the end of the movie bun bun steal parts form the malovolator. This opens up a possalbe segual where bun bun has reverse the malvoltr in a boreator. She is using to turn the cartoon demisnon into a gray depprsing place with the expeciton of her medow in the hops it will make her the cutest and most popular cartoon charter in the world

This TL will now be a collaborative one so you guys are more than welcome to contribute.

 

[QTXAdsy]

I have a few things to suggest to add mainly from a UK perspective. One is that UK animation is stronger ITTL and hopefully the British theme park industry is more competitive too with differences E.G M&D's being butterflied away with something better and maybe another park being bought up?

How does the Pod take place for both and what is the general TL for them? I could help provide a UK theme park TL if you need assistance or add to if you'd like.

 

[Goldwind2]

This TL will now be a collaborative one so you guys are more than welcome to contribute.

I'd still like to get your apporval first. I think I will update the animation pipeline.

 

[Goldwind2]

oseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat (Dreamworks)
The Emperor's New Groove (Disney)
Hans Brinker (UA; Film Roman)
Madeline: Lost in Paris (Revolution)
Rugrats in Paris (USA Films; Nickelodeon Movies)
Super Mario Bros (Grand Diamond; Nintendo)

2001:
Shrek (Dreamworks)
Atlantis: The Lost Empire (Universal; Gemini)
Josie and the Pussycats (Warner Bros; Archie)
Treasure Planet (Disney)
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Universal; Gemini)
Donkey Kong (Grand Diamond; Nintendo)

2002:
Lilo and Stitch (Disney)
Ice Age (Fox)
The Worst Band in the Universe (Revolution)
Star Trek: Nemesis (Paramount; Nelvana)
Untitled Chuck Jones Looney Tunes Movie (Warner Bros)
Tom and Jerry: The Magic Ring (MGM; Film Roman)
Hey Arnold! The Movie (Hanna-Barbera)
The Wild Thornberrys Movie (USA Films; Nickelodeon Movies)
Spirited Away (Ghibli; Distributor to be determined)
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (Universal; Gemini)
The Legend of Zelda (Grand Diamond; Nintendo)

2003:
Mistress Masham's Repose (Disney)
Iron Giant II (RKO)
The Simpsons Movie (Paramount; Nelvana)
Starlight Express (Dreamworks)

2004:
Les Miserables (Disney)
The Spongebob Squarepants Movie (UA; Film Roman)
The Incredibles (RKO)

2005:
Corpse Bride (Tim Burton)

2006:
Redaxes (Disney; Special thanks to @QTXAdsy)
Iron Giant III (RKO)
Cars (needs distributor)
2007
Artificial stupidity (Dream Works or Revoultion)
Toonstruk (Gemini)

 

[Goldwind2]

I got an idea for an orignal movie i call Artificial Stupidity. is the story of a scientist who has spent over ten years raising an A.I equipped robot like he was his own son. An evil money grubbing calle General Industies and Researcj finds out about his A.I project and steals it. The company is impatient and doesn't want to spend years raising the A.1. So they plans to just copy it, and slap on a few changes to it. However ever the program gets corrupted during the copying and and the scatterbrained intern in charge of making the small changes to a.i accidentally feeds the A.I the entire contents of his spam mail folder. This results in the A.I becoming a giggling moron who creates tons of havoc when in installed into the companies robots.

The head of General Industies and Reshearch robotics diviosn is made Ignatius Zimmerman. Iggauts is a foul temaper megalomanic. He mad his ways up the copertate by stealign other people ideal.Igaustus is quite abusie to his staff. He is vocied by Robert Stevn Horvits

The robots are vocied by Rosearik "Rikki" Simons).

Got any ideas to flessh out aritclal studidpity

Does any body get the inside jokes

 

[OldNavy1988]

Next updates:

- The "What's with Andy" movie

- Blair: Eight Years Later

- The Eddie Van Helsing movie

- The fate of the half-built Trump park in Texas

 

[Goldwind2]

Next updates:

- The "What's with Andy" movie

- Blair: Eight Years Later

- The Eddie Van Helsing movie

- The fate of the half-built Trump park in Texas

I watched a little more the toon struck let play. IT turns out i was wrong about nerfious and bun bun being in league. She was still evil. It turns she kidnapped the kign of cutetopia and disgused her self as him so she can alter the cuteifier form simply undoing the effects of the malvotor to turing people into her cute happy slaves.

 

[Goldwind2]

So did any body get the inside jokes about Artificial Stupidity. #1 the acronym for General Industries and Research is G.I.R . The head of the G.I.R robot Division name is Ignatius Zimmerman . The first three letters of Zimmerman are ZIM and both Ignatius and Invader begin with I. Also I described Ignatius as a a foul tempered megalomaniac who like abusing his underlings and he is voiced by Robert Steven Horvits. Don't see suppose to be a human mad scientist version of Invader Zim.

Also does any body like the idea of Johnen Vasquez produce Artificial Stupidity. Invader Zim was apparently butterflied so Johen will need a new project. Does anybody think i shouuld move up Artificial stupidity up form 2007 to 2005.

 

[Goldwind2]

I am thinking of calling the robot that was stolen by General In dusty and Research Dynamically intelligent Bios or D.I.B for short. It is another reference to Invader Zim.

 

[OldNavy1988]

So did any body get the inside jokes about Artificial Stupidity. #1 the acronym for General Industries and Research is G.I.R . The head of the G.I.R robot Division name is Ignatius Zimmerman . The first three letters of Zimmerman are ZIM and both Ignatius and Invader begin with I. Also I described Ignatius as a a foul tempered megalomaniac who like abusing his underlings and he is voiced by Robert Steven Horvits. Don't see suppose to be a human mad scientist version of Invader Zim.

Also does any body like the idea of Johnen Vasquez produce Artificial Stupidity. Invader Zim was apparently butterflied so Johen will need a new project. Does anybody think i shouuld move up Artificial stupidity up form 2007 to 2005.

I don't think too many people understood those inside jokes. Sorry.