Don Carlos Timeline

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Don Carlos Timeline

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A boy was born at Valladolid on July 8, 1545. His mother, Maria Manuela of Portugal, The young Infante Carlos was strong and sturdy and for that reason, the King would have him betrothed to Elizabeth of Valois, a few weeks after birth.

The Infant got baptized with his God Fathers being Francis I of France and his wife, Eleanor and Ferdinand the Holy Roman Emperor, the birth of such son was seen as a blessing as Philip II would have a heir of his own as the Prince of Asturias, the child is baptized as Charles or Don Carlos, named after his own grandfather.

Maria Manuela would cradle the baby in her arms and give the baby the best treatment in the first years of his own life.

In the northern part of Europe, Princess in Scotland named Mary is already betrothed to be married to the Dauphin.[1]

On October 4, 1546, Maria Manuela would give birth to another daughter named Infanta Isabel but she would suffer complications and die a few days after the birth of her own daughter.






1.My plan is to marry Mary Queen of Scots to Don Carlos as second husband of Mary Queen of Scots..
 
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You do realize that genetically, Don Carlos was the product of siblings, right? Instead of 16 great-great-grandparents he had six, he had four great grandparents instead of eight and genetically his parents were, at best, genetic half-siblings......

So, I suppose my question is: what did Mary, Queen of Scots ever do to you that you would marry her to this inbred one-man freak show? He was crazy.
 
And it's not the sort of crazy you can do anything about, it's from inbreeding and it's not going to get better, the mutations have occurred, diluting the gene pool is not going to help it. (Actually, it's too late to dilute the gene pool and he'll just pass those mutations to his children.)
 
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How did 3000 men captured Malacca in 1537? The city was well fortified by then, in contrast to when it was captured in 1511, there would be a squadron in the city to fight off attacking fleets, given that it was the main center of Portuguese power in SEAsia, and there are well documented sieges of this time in India of Portuguese garrisons holding for months against larger forces until reinforcements could arrive.
 
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How did 3000 men captured Malacca in 1537? The city was well fortified by then, in contrast to when it was captured in 1511, there would be a squadron in the city to fight off attacking fleets, given that it was the main center of Portuguese power in SEAsia, and there are well documented sieges of this time in India of Portuguese garrisons holding for months against larger forces until reinforcements could arrive.
I will revise this part, thanks.
 
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On 1520, Majapahit vassal states such as Demak and Brunei already are already in power and would advance further the impending collapse of Majapahit, Prabu Udara was not recognized as the legitemate emperor of Demak due to his own lineage while the Hindus in Majapahit would recognize Prabu Udara.

There are many things that he would consider to end the fight between the Demak and the Hindu faction of Majapahit, on the top of this it has been 10 years since the Portuguese sack of Melaka, he considered the Portuguese also a problem to his empire.

On 1527 Prabu Udara was defeated by the Sultan of Demak who wanted to be recognized as the legitemate King of Majapahit but it resulted in Majapahit breaking up as the Hindus would not recognize the Sultan of Demak as Emperor.

The war between Cirebon-Demak alliance and the Sunda kingdom lasted almost five years. The king lost 1000 of his troops. Finally, in 1531, a peace treaty was concluded between King Surawisesa and Syarif Hidayatullah.

During 1534, Portuguese troops would help the Kingdom of Sunda keep the Demak and other muslims at bay in their Kingdom, causing the successor of Surawisesa, Ratu Dewata and the family of Surawisesa adopt Christianity.

In Aceh Salahuddin's father sultan Ali had been engaged in a mortal combat against the Portuguese. Hostilities paused temporarily after his death. However, in September 1537 an Acehnese fleet appeared before Melaka, carrying a standing regiment of circa 3,000 men. The Acehnese landed successfully but failed, the Acehnese would ask for Bruneian help which caused the Bruneians to gather Luções and Bruneian armies with regiment of 6,000 which combined with the newly recruited Acehnese armies which amounted to 4000 which started a siege of Melaka in January 1538 which were joined by a 5000 person army of the Sultan of Johor which led to the destruction of the Portuguese fortifications there forcing the Portuguese to transfer to Jayakarta in Sunda, however the Acehnese would make the city of Melaka their own territory depriving Johor the territory of the city of Melaka. [1]



On the late 1530's and 1540 The Acehnese missionaries were sent by Saiful Rijjal due to the alliance of Brunei with Aceh under Salahuddin to the lands of Dayak and to the lands of Saludong in the Port cities of Makabebe, Faru and Bigan helping them convert to Islam and immigrants from Sumatra and Java awould resume migrating to Saludong in Makabebe, Faru and Bigan and their suburbs and Merchants would arrive back as well which would mean that these towns would slowly recognize Demak as successor of Majapahit and they rush back in order to restore the old trade with Japan and Ryukyu, the remaining Majapahit nobles in the former territory of Majapahit which is Saludong and the former vassal Kingdoms of Sapa and Kaboloan would be against this development but can't do anything.

1. The POD is on 1537
 
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On 1547, Mary Tudor or Princess Mary would die due to cancer spreading in her ovaries and due to this Mary, Queen of Scots would become a great catch as the legitimate catholic Queen of England and her betrothal with the Dauphin was made fast and the two were betrothed and the marriage proposals would come to her but the betrothal to the dauphin became the priority of the dowager Queen of Scotland, Marie de Guise.

Mary Stuart was eventually married to the King of France, Francis II in 1560 with a slightly younger groom, the Princess is the ruler of the Scots throne as the Queen of Scots, she would be seen by the Spanish as the rightful heir to the Kingdom of England in the catholic view and Francis II would die himself a few months after the marriage.

Mary Stuart herself would receive many invitations of marriage after the death of her husband and Don Carlos' invitation to her seemed very much secure to her, Mary Stuart would decide to go to the Navarrese border and go to Spain and marries Don Carlos, one of her suitors in 1562, it is a marriage that would cause an outrage in Scotland causing the Earl of Arran to propose to Queen Elizabeth of England.
 
You do realize that genetically, Don Carlos was the product of siblings, right? Instead of 16 great-great-grandparents he had six, he had four great grandparents instead of eight and genetically his parents were, at best, genetic half-siblings......

So, I suppose my question is: what did Mary, Queen of Scots ever do to you that you would marry her to this inbred one-man freak show? He was crazy.

And it's not the sort of crazy you can do anything about, it's from inbreeding and it's not going to get better, the mutations have occurred, diluting the gene pool is not going to help it. (Actually, it's too late to dilute the gene pool and he'll just pass those mutations to his children.)

A part of the POD is that Don Carlos is healthy but Mary and Carlos would have some children that don't survive due to some weakness like hemophilia, this Don Carlos is not the same as OTL.
 
And it's not the sort of crazy you can do anything about, it's from inbreeding and it's not going to get better, the mutations have occurred, diluting the gene pool is not going to help it. (Actually, it's too late to dilute the gene pool and he'll just pass those mutations to his children.)
Genes don't work that way, Inbreed do not cause mutations! High level of inbreed leds to higher level of homosygousity-various recessive harmful mutations already present could show its effects but no new ones arise because of inbreed. And inbreed is like lottery-the fact that Don Carlos is inbreed means that he is more likely to have birth defects but it is not guaranteed-Philip III and Philip IV were almost as much inbreed as Don Carlos.
And Mary of Scots is not closely related to Don Carlos-there is no reason to assume that their offspring should be degenerated-recessive gene needs two copies to show its harmful effect.
 
My bad. What I should have said was any mutations that occurred would, like the recessive and undesirable genes are more likely to occur with this inbreeding.
 
My bad. What I should have said was any mutations that occurred would, like the recessive and undesirable genes are more likely to occur with this inbreeding.
Yes, chances for birth defects are quite high for Don Carlos, but it was not impossible for him to be healthly. And if he had kids with unrelated woman they would not be inbreed at all.
 
The only problem is......you have to have ALL of the kids get their dominant genes from Mary or the last of the 'good' genes from Carlos and that's not going to happen. It would ASB for that to happen. (This from the one who uses gaming dice when she writes alt hist, so take that last bit with a grain of salt. I'd be afraid to roll on children of this guy.)
 
The only problem is......you have to have ALL of the kids get their dominant genes from Mary or the last of the 'good' genes from Carlos and that's not going to happen. It would ASB for that to happen. (This from the one who uses gaming dice when she writes alt hist, so take that last bit with a grain of salt. I'd be afraid to roll on children of this guy.)
No. Harmful genes are usually recessive (otherwise they are quickly eliminated from population)-Carlos's kids could get even all of his 'bad' genes but as these genes are mostly recessive they would remain 'hidden'.
 
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