Dominion of Southern America - Updated July 1, 2018

Glen

Glen

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The Panic of 1881 launched an unprecedented prolonged period of economic hardship and uncertainty that challenged America's traditional two party system, especially as some disenfranchised and disaffected turned away from the seemingly ineffectual policies of either party. The Korsgaardian Party of America was one among many small parties that gained prominance during this period, and as other nations embraced Korsgaardian politics and seemed to prosper by it, the American Korsgaardians gained credence and followers. By the 1888 presidential election, the Korsgaardian Party of America was able to launch the first ever credible third party in American history.
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KORSGAARDIAN PARTY OF AMERICA​
 

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Glen said:
By the 1888 presidential election, the Korsgaardian Party of America was able to launch the first ever credible third party in American history.
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well, this is somewhat distressing, hopefully they won't be able to do much in the way of lasting damage.

great picture by the way.
 

Nicksplace27

Adûnakhôr said:
1888?

Bit early for Fascism, isn't it?

Cool idea through.
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Some fascist ideas were in place in OTL around the 1890s, although it really did evolve in response to Communism. Nevertheless, something that combines militant nationalism with leftist social policies that also prop up certain buisnesses is something that could evolve organically sooner or later.
 
TapReflex

TapReflex

Dang. Fascist Party in America.
Is there any chance, we can have writers like George Orwell write out against these politics?
 

thekingsguard

Glen said:
The Panic of 1881 launched an unprecedented prolonged period of economic hardship and uncertainty that challenged America's traditional two party system, especially as some disenfranchised and disaffected turned away from the seemingly ineffectual policies of either party. The Korsgaardian Party of America was one among many small parties that gained prominance during this period, and as other nations embraced Korsgaardian politics and seemed to prosper by it, the American Korsgaardians gained credence and followers. By the 1888 presidential election, the Korsgaardian Party of America was able to launch the first ever credible third party in American history.
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KORSGAARDIAN PARTY OF AMERICA​
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I suddenly feel like an ass...
 
Glen

Glen

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Sovereign12 said:
It would be interesting to see the rest of the english speaking world calling them Notso's. It could start with some group in British Patagonia trying to distinguish themselves as being truly Southern (global-wise) compared to those northern Southerners. Eventually it is shorted to NoSo and somewhere along the line it becomes Not So-->Notso. It could have come about by some like minded people saying "them DSA guys are Notso perfect... they're Notso good at music... they're food is Notso great..."

It could become Nutso for an even further derogatory term in regards to those who look on the good old days prior to becoming a part of the British Commonwealth again. You know there are always going to be a bunch who look on days of yore as the good ole days (eg. people in OTL who sport CSA flags).
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This Notso deal is perhaps one of the oddest things I've heard of - full points for creativity, Sovereign, but I don't think it is likely to occur....
 
Glen

Glen

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Sovereign12 said:
Perhaps you could have TTL's version of a HG Wells type writer come from the DSA and he writes a story called "The Elephants of Iron" (The Land Ironclads), but instead of it being about early tanks it is about early forms of (armored) self propelled artillery. The gun resembles the trunk of an elephant to someone and that name stick. While Trunks look like OTL tanks they are lightly armored. So, the equivalent to tanks ITTL is the Rhino, because of the idea of a charging, armor skinned rhinoceous.
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Now that, Sovereign, is some capital thinking! Will have to seriously think on that....
 
Glen

Glen

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The Second Mexican Republic, also known as the United States of Mexico, was one of the earliest and hardest hit nations in the global economic downturn of the 1880s. The Panic of 1881 sent the nation to the edge of utter bankruptcy, with international creditors inpatient to be paid. As businesses failed, the government was seen as impotent. Into this maelstrom rose the Korsgaardistas, and their charismatic leader, Angel Castellanos. Castellanos was hailed by his admirers as the second coming of Jorge Quintana. When the federal government deadlocked over the budget, the Korsgaardistas marched on Mexico City. Mexican President Rivera was 'convinced' to make Castellanos his vice-president, and to enact a Korsgaardista agenda. Protectionism, corporate support and guidance from the president, as well as an odd dual celebration of the Mesoamerican past and 'traditional' Catholicism were the first priorities. Within a year, Rivera resigned citing 'health' reasons, and Castellanos was raised to the presidency. Many Mexicans welcomed the Korsgaardistas and Castellanos as their policies seemed to offer them renewed prosperity and respect on the international stage. By 1885, the Korsgaardistas had gained control over the military, judiciary, and a sizeable portion of the legislature. Other parties were dissolved, as was the constitution, and the Mexican Empire was proclaimed by President Angel Castellanos.

The new flag of the Mexican Empire

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GeneralInTheShell

Glen said:
The Second Mexican Republic, also known as the United States of Mexico, was one of the earliest and hardest hit nations in the global economic downturn of the 1880s. The Panic of 1881 sent the nation to the edge of utter bankruptcy, with international creditors inpatient to be paid. As businesses failed, the government was seen as impotent. Into this maelstrom rose the Korsgaardistas, and their charismatic leader, Angel Castellanos. Castellanos was hailed by his admirers as the second coming of Jorge Quintana. When the federal government deadlocked over the budget, the Korsgaardistas marched on Mexico City. Mexican President Rivera was 'convinced' to make Castellanos his vice-president, and to enact a Korsgaardista agenda. Protectionism, corporate support and guidance from the president, as well as an odd dual celebration of the Mesoamerican past and 'traditional' Catholicism were the first priorities. Within a year, Rivera resigned citing 'health' reasons, and Castellanos was raised to the presidency. Many Mexicans welcomed the Korsgaardistas and Castellanos as their policies seemed to offer them renewed prosperity and respect on the international stage. By 1885, the Korsgaardistas had gained control over the military, judiciary, and a sizeable portion of the legislature. Other parties were dissolved, as was the constitution, and the Mexican Empire was proclaimed by President Angel Castellanos.

The new flag of the Mexican Empire
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Glen this is beautiful. i love the flag by the way
 

Tsao

Banned
Glen said:
The Second Mexican Republic, also known as the United States of Mexico, was one of the earliest and hardest hit nations in the global economic downturn of the 1880s. The Panic of 1881 sent the nation to the edge of utter bankruptcy, with international creditors inpatient to be paid. As businesses failed, the government was seen as impotent. Into this maelstrom rose the Korsgaardistas, and their charismatic leader, Angel Castellanos. Castellanos was hailed by his admirers as the second coming of Jorge Quintana. When the federal government deadlocked over the budget, the Korsgaardistas marched on Mexico City. Mexican President Rivera was 'convinced' to make Castellanos his vice-president, and to enact a Korsgaardista agenda. Protectionism, corporate support and guidance from the president, as well as an odd dual celebration of the Mesoamerican past and 'traditional' Catholicism were the first priorities. Within a year, Rivera resigned citing 'health' reasons, and Castellanos was raised to the presidency. Many Mexicans welcomed the Korsgaardistas and Castellanos as their policies seemed to offer them renewed prosperity and respect on the international stage. By 1885, the Korsgaardistas had gained control over the military, judiciary, and a sizeable portion of the legislature. Other parties were dissolved, as was the constitution, and the Mexican Empire was proclaimed by President Angel Castellanos.

The new flag of the Mexican Empire
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Korsgaardists in Mexico, eh? I like the ring of their name, the Korsgaardistas, very nice.

And that is one badass flag.
 
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