Dominion of Southern America - Updated July 1, 2018

stevep

Glen

Sounding promising for the pro-British elements in Texas. Jackson dead and his supporters bogged down in a war with Britain and Brown returns with aid and promises that if they join BSA they get both high levels of self-government and maintenance of their claims in the west.

Steve

Glen said:
Former Texas President Brown was fervently against alliance with the rebels in Southern America, and went to ground when the Jacksonians overthrew the Texas constitution in order make their foolhardy pact with the slavers of the British South to form the (from their perspective) unholy Confederation. Brown went underground to lead Anglophile Texans in armed resistance to Jacksonian tyranny. However, Brown soon realized that the Anglophile forces would need significant support to overthrow the Jackson regime in Texas. Brown was smuggled out of the country and set sail for Britain, where he entreated Parliament to support his forces in Texas. Negotiations went longer than Brown had hoped. His faction was willing to see Texas in the British Empire, but on condition that the British maintain their claims in New Mexico and California, and their right to 'responsible government'. Brown warned that if Britain did not take up the burden of Texas, then the Confederation would, and if their revolt failed, then America or even Mexico. Eventually a suitable arrangement was agreed to, and ships loaded with weapons and supplies headed out to the Texas coast to bolster the Anglophile Texans. On Brown's return to Texas, the word that greeted him was of the death of Jackson.

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Falastur said:
Nice image, but there's two things wrong with it. One, the Union Jack isn't a battle flag, the ship should be flying a naval ensign. Two, the British ship is sinking ;)
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I shall take your points in reverse order:

1) That's a riverine gunboat, not a Ship of the Line....I think your British pride can afford a sinking.;)

2) I shall see your objection to TTL's depiction of the Union Jack in battle, and raise you an OTL depiction of naval forces in the War of 1812, clearly showing a Union Jack flying from the Royal Navy ship. Don't know enough to know for certain what would fly in real life, but in art, the Union Jack was definitely used.

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One of the major actions of the Slaver Uprising in the north was the Battle of Roanoke Rapids. Roanoke Rapids was an important town, strategically located on the fall line of the Roanoke River just south of the border with America. Being the furthest navigable point on the river and having abundant water-power available, it was a natural choice for a transfer station for goods and people traveling to and fro the USA as railways stretched towards both sides of the Border. With the renewed offensive establishing a beachhead on the North Carolina Coast, and Loyalist resupply being eased by British control of the Mississippi, the Loyalists marched east to take this last vital link between the Confederation and America.

Roanoke Rapids almost was a disaster for the Loyalist army under General Grymes when they were pinned down in an ambush just west of the city by Confederation General Pinckney. However, in the end Pinckney's forces were the ones trapped when surprised from behind by the appearance of the Sable Legion, which had force marched to arrive in time to aid the Southern British Loyalists. Though these brave black troops must have been bone tired, they threw themselves into the fight with a ferocity that amazed both friend and foe. General Gryme's own life was in fact saved by the bravery of a black soldier that day, but in that case it was one of the freed blacks among the loyalist Black Companies. The two would remain close for the rest of Gryme's life.

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stevep said:
Glen

Sounding promising for the pro-British elements in Texas. Jackson dead and his supporters bogged down in a war with Britain and Brown returns with aid and promises that if they join BSA they get both high levels of self-government and maintenance of their claims in the west.

Steve
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Yes, does indeed, doesn't it? Which was Brown's point all along. We'll see how it turns out.:rolleyes:
 

stevep

Glen

Sounds good, both in terms of the eastern rebels being isolated from the US and the close co-operation between white and black loyalists. Should make reform afterwards. Presuming the good guys win, as seems likely at the moment but not taking anything for granted].;)

Steve

Glen said:
One of the major actions of the Slaver Uprising in the north was the Battle of Roanoke Rapids. Roanoke Rapids was an important town, strategically located on the fall line of the Roanoke River just south of the border with America. Being the furthest navigable point on the river and having abundant water-power available, it was a natural choice for a transfer station for goods and people traveling to and fro the USA as railways stretched towards both sides of the Border. With the renewed offensive establishing a beachhead on the North Carolina Coast, and Loyalist resupply being eased by British control of the Mississippi, the Loyalists marched east to take this last vital link between the Confederation and America.

Roanoke Rapids almost was a disaster for the Loyalist army under General Grymes when they were pinned down in an ambush just west of the city by Confederation General Pinckney. However, in the end Pinckney's forces were the ones trapped when surprised from behind by the appearance of the Sable Legion, which had force marched to arrive in time to aid the Southern British Loyalists. Though these brave black troops must have been bone tired, they threw themselves into the fight with a ferocity that amazed both friend and foe. General Gryme's own life was in fact saved by the bravery of a black soldier that day, but in that case it was one of the freed blacks among the loyalist Black Companies. The two would remain close for the rest of Gryme's life.

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The British pressure on the Confederationists continued with one of the more colourful episodes of the war. The British had ignored the Texans in California for most of the war, but with the joint operations of Anglophile Texans under Brown and the British Crown, it was felt that some effort was worth undertaking in that theatre. Sending a few ships from the Royal Navy to secure Santa Barbara and San Diego was fairly easy. The more creative part was the small expedition meant to go overland and secure the route from California to Texas, which included a small contingent of camels for the task. This was the first recorded use of camels in North America, and came as quite a shock in Santa Fe.

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stevep said:
Glen

Sounds good, both in terms of the eastern rebels being isolated from the US and the close co-operation between white and black loyalists. Should make reform afterwards. Presuming the good guys win, as seems likely at the moment but not taking anything for granted].;)

Steve
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Yes, if things were to proceed smoothly from here it would be logical that it would help reform later. Then again, look at how much it bought blacks who fought on the British side in the ARW....
 

Falastur

Glen said:
The more creative part was the small expedition meant to go overland and secure the route from California to Texas, which included a small contingent of camels for the task. This was the first recorded use of camels in North America, and came as quite a shock in Santa Fe.

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Interesting. Is there a historical precedent for this? is this a nod to a real life event that I don't know of? Or did you just make it up for flavour?
 
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