Dominion of Southern America - Updated July 1, 2018

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Glen, Feb 22, 2010.

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  1. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    A reasonable assumption - of course, time will tell....
     
  2. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    One of the great problems with the various theories of Diversification being promulgated in the middle of the 19th century was the lack of a mechanism for inheritance of features. However, this was quickly rectified through the work of famed flower horticulturalist Thomas Owsley of the Virginia Owsleys. Owsley published his observations on the statistics of blending inheritance in a series of papers throughout the 1850s. Crossing flowers such as roses or snapdragons could develop true breeding strains of red or white, for example, but not pink. Owsely discovered, however, that if he bred truebreeding red and white strains together, all the offspring would be pink. However, the more important observation was that when those pink hybrids of red and white were cross-bred, they would produce all three colors in a ratio of 1 Red: 2 Pink: 1 White, thus suggesting that inherited traits for red and white existed and their pairing with like traits or unlike traits would determine the color of the bloom.
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  3. Plumber Manifest Destiny inspired Lebensraum

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    Oooh, *Mendel :)
     
  4. Earl_of_Somerset Banned

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    Some people who contributed names got there name as presidents and all i got was some flower dude :mad:.

    (Im Kidding, Im glad one of my contributed names got to be used in any way, shape or form)
     
  5. Plumber Manifest Destiny inspired Lebensraum

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    Dude, your name was Gregor Mendel! That's more important than almost anyone else in the TL in the grand scheme of things :mad:
     
  6. thekingsguard Founder of Korsgaardianism

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    A Virginian discovers genetics! Hooray for the Old Dominion!
     
  7. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    Yes, and this time it won't need 'rediscovering'.
     
  8. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    Yes, you get a flower dude (actually, the presidents have, by and large, not come from other member's names - care to guess where some of them came from?). And yes, the flower dude's contribution is huge in terms of impact. And yes, let's hear it for the Old Dominion (which, BTW, the Virginia of TTL does not really use).
     
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    Any reason why? Virginia of OTL still slaps the name on everywhere despite being a major economic and manpower source of the Revolution.
     
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    The first Prime Minister of the Dominion of Southern America was Southern Civil War General and Founding Father of the Dominion, James Randolph. Prime Minister Randolph was a noted leader of the Loyalists in the conflict, and it was the Loyalists, particularly those from Carleton and North Carolina, who dominated the Dominion level politics of British Southern America. Randolph led the Dominion through those first vital years of rebuilding and federation, and thus can rightly be said to be a father of the nation. He held the post of Prime Minister from 1845 to 1852, after which he resigned from the post, citing health reasons.

    The post of Prime Minister was next assumed by North Carolinian John Howe Jr., famed publicist of the Loyalist cause. His tenure as Prime Minister coincided roughly with the occupancy of the American Presidency by federalist Benjamin Hull Kays. The Federalists of America were traditionally pro-British, and indeed the Kays administration had amiable relations with the Dominion, even while competing to complete a transcontinental railway. Prime Minister Howe retained office for another 7 years, until his retirement from politics in 1859.

    The third Prime Minister of the Dominion was once more a Loyalist stalwart, founding father of the Dominion, and a prominant Loyalist General in the Southern Civil War, Carletonian Horatio Grymes. Grymes continued the legacy of rebuilding and stability set by his predecessors, but was an old man even at the time of his assumption of the office. Prime Minister Grimes became the first Prime Minister of the DSA to die in office in 1862.

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  11. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    Because they're a little too close to the New Dominion for comfort.
     
  12. thekingsguard Founder of Korsgaardianism

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    Any ideas for a prefered motto then? As one of the people quite peleased with VA's position in this TL, I am quite curious.
     
  13. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    Homeland of Presidents?;)
     
  14. Iserlohn Amateur Cartographer

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    Maybe "Where liberty and independence were born." is a good motto for Virginia.
     
  15. Canassatego King of Ball

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    The thing I see that's strange from this is that the Zulus wouldn't cross such great distances to attack the Boers, I don't think. They were interested about defending their claimed territory in Natal but there are many tribes between them and the British. If the ascendancy of Shaka went per OTL then the Zulu should be in a bit of a mess right now.

    And the Boers that went on the Great Trek were known as Voortrekkers. If I'm not wrong Trekboers were nomadic herders in the Great Karoo.
     
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    How about "Old Dominion, New Glory"? :p
     
  17. Darth_Kiryan The Númenorean Sith

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    Is there a list of presidents, somewhere. Kinda curious.
     
  18. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    The Zulu were asccendent in the area as per OTL, but not as 'in a mess' by the time the Boers arrived, thus their ability to stand up to them - by the time that the Boers were beaten, however, the Zulus were about in OTL's state of mess.

    The Trekboer term seemed to have been more generic before the Great Trek. Here with the essential failure of the Great Trek, the term Voortrekker never comes into use.
     
  19. Canassatego King of Ball

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    Ah, alright then.
     
  20. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    First 10 Presidents of the United States of America
    1. George Washington - No Party Affiliation - 1789-1797
    2. John Adams - Federalist - 1797-1805
    3. Thomas Jefferson - Democratic-Republican - 1805-1813
    4. James Madison - Federalist - 1813-1821
    5. John Quincey Adams - Federalist - 1821-1829
    6. John Andrew Schulze - Democratic-Republican - 1829-1837
    7. Peter Buell Porter - Federalist - 1837-1841
    8. Pierre Nicolas de Condorcet - Democrat* - 1841-1849
    9. Benjamin Hull Kays - Federalist - 1849-1857
    10. Nicholas Samuel Roosevelt - Federalist - 1857-1865
    * The Democratic-Republican Party's name was shortened to the Democratic Party in the 1840s.
     
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