Dome of the Rock blown up April 1982

in April 1982 Israel was readying to pull out of it's last strip of the Sinai (see map) the pro-settlement movement Gush Emunim are violently opposed to withdrawal, the main settlement at Yamit (planed to have 250,000 people, in 1982 there were only 2,000 settlers) was the center of this debate, in April 20 to 23 1982 the Israeli Army had to carry fighting settlers and their supports onto buses, pulling the last off the roof of Yamit's Synagogue, powerful leaders in Gush Emunim planed to stop the withdrawal by means other than protest at Yamit, the plan was to blow up the Dome of the Rock, however their bomb maker became ill shortly before the planned bombing, and handover happened before a new one could be found, it wasn't till 1984 that Israeli police learned anything at all about this plan, so what if the bomber hadn't gotten hepatitis? and in early April 1982 Israeli Settlement radicals set off a bomb that badly damages the Dome of the Rock? does this really start a war? does this stop the handover?

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Well, that's terrifying. I never knew about either Gush Emunim or their plot, but if it was carried out successfully, hell hath no fury like the rage that would descend on Israel. Even if Israel swiftly executed everyone involved, that would do little to appease Muslim fury.

I couldn't find a good source on their plot. It's mentioned a couple of places, but nothing comprehensive. Do you have something decent?

Cheers,
Ganesha
 
Well, the Israelis can simply point out that if the Arabs want a war, they can take it up with a little instant sunshine.
 
Could they actually blow it up? That would take a LOT of explosives.

I'm unsure, given that it never got to the bomb point I'm unsure how big of a boom it'd be, I doubt they could level it, a rocket could put a hole in the Dome it's self, if under it bring down one of the walls, if planned by the door, on a Friday, you get a lot of dead Muslims by the front door, blow the doors off and bash the front up, but yes leveling it is unlikely
 
I'm unsure, given that it never got to the bomb point I'm unsure how big of a boom it'd be, I doubt they could level it, a rocket could put a hole in the Dome it's self, if under it bring down one of the walls, if planned by the door, on a Friday, you get a lot of dead Muslims by the front door, blow the doors off and bash the front up, but yes leveling it is unlikely

How hard would it be to get a car up there, or near it? Car bombs can do a helluva lot of damage if done properly.
 
How hard would it be to get a car up there, or near it? Car bombs can do a helluva lot of damage if done properly.

I don't think you can drive there, though maybe you can, no I think you'd get shot before you managed that, there is a walk way thats part under ground, right next to the Dome I know that
 
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I believe the proper description for what follows this is "shit hits fan."

idk, likely kills Egypt Israel peace, and ramps Palestinian terror up to 11, but I feel like the age of state on state war Arabs Vs Israel had past, the State of Israel knocking down the Dome and starting work on the 3rd Temple might start it, a rogue terrorist act that damages the Dome.... unlikely, the bombers would be jailed for life if not just shot, Israel would likely pay for repairs, Arabs are very mad, states like Syria give more money to the PLO than in OTL, Lebanon likely doesn't happen (at lest not in 1982) Egypt and Jordan both say they won't work with Israel (how long idk) Israel likely won't hand back it's strip of Sinai with out peace which Mubarak can't give out of fear of Muslim hard liners
 
idk, likely kills Egypt Israel peace, and ramps Palestinian terror up to 11, but I feel like the age of state on state war Arabs Vs Israel had past, the State of Israel knocking down the Dome and starting work on the 3rd Temple might start it, a rogue terrorist act that damages the Dome.... unlikely, the bombers would be jailed for life if not just shot, Israel would likely pay for repairs, Arabs are very mad, states like Syria give more money to the PLO than in OTL, Lebanon likely doesn't happen (at lest not in 1982) Egypt and Jordan both say they won't work with Israel (how long idk) Israel likely won't hand back it's strip of Sinai with out peace which Mubarak can't give out of fear of Muslim hard liners

If the age had passed by this point, this is just the kind of thing to start it up again. You're talking the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in reverse. We're talking a pan-Islamic insult of the kind that'd see all the pseudo-medieval fanatics up in arms, not just Arabs.
 
If the age had passed by this point, this is just the kind of thing to start it up again. You're talking the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in reverse. We're talking a pan-Islamic insult of the kind that'd see all the pseudo-medieval fanatics up in arms, not just Arabs.

in 1967 the Church of the Nativity was hit by Israeli shells, many holes in its roof, not one Christian nation said boo at the UN about it, sure maybe the larger war covered it up, but basically the Governments of the Arab world weren't Islamist at the time, and do you see Egypt Jordan or Syria wanting or being in the place to start a war? because what a very small number of Jews set off a bomb near the Dome? Egypt and Jordan are happily pocketed by the US in 1982, that reasoning for war would never fly with the Reagan White House, no doubt old Ron would tell them he'd go to war for Israel, like wise they're looking at Begin as PM of Nuclear Israel, they'll yell but I see no state on state wars, threats, sure but no war.
 
in 1967 the Church of the Nativity was hit by Israeli shells, many holes in its roof, not one Christian nation said boo at the UN about it, sure maybe the larger war covered it up, but basically the Governments of the Arab world weren't Islamist at the time, and do you see Egypt Jordan or Syria wanting or being in the place to start a war? because what a very small number of Jews set off a bomb near the Dome? Egypt and Jordan are happily pocketed by the US in 1982, that reasoning for war would never fly with the Reagan White House, no doubt old Ron would tell them he'd go to war for Israel, like wise they're looking at Begin as PM of Nuclear Israel, they'll yell but I see no state on state wars, threats, sure but no war.

You're missing my point. I said it would be a major offense to ISLAMISTS. That is a different thing than SOVIET BLOC dictatorships.
 
You're missing my point. I said it would be a major offense to ISLAMISTS. That is a different thing than SOVIET BLOC dictatorships.

sure, like I noted, terrorism up to 11, but no state is run by them (other than Iran with has its own issues in 1982) and I doubt it'll be enough to over throw Egypt or Jordan, of course they can't go from bombing to peace, but that doesn't mean war
 
sure, like I noted, terrorism up to 11, but no state is run by them (other than Iran with has its own issues in 1982) and I doubt it'll be enough to over throw Egypt or Jordan, of course they can't go from bombing to peace, but that doesn't mean war

Sigh, let me rephrase: are you claiming that Israelis blowing up the Dome of the Rock would result in nothing happening to Israel in either the Middle East or outside of it? That terrorism up to 11 changes nothing?
 
Well, the Israelis can simply point out that if the Arabs want a war, they can take it up with a little instant sunshine.

And what of the legions of non-state actors like the Palestine Liberation Organization that will suddenly find themselves having massive sympathy from the rest of the Arab World?

The USA and other key Israeli supporters know full well about the worst-kept secret in the Israeli government, the US won't simply stand for Israel threatening to nuke everyone, that's one of the few things (aside from other outright deranged actions like setting up death camps for Palestinians) that can actually make the US take an anti-Israeli stance.
 
Sigh, let me rephrase: are you claiming that Israelis blowing up the Dome of the Rock would result in nothing happening to Israel in either the Middle East or outside of it? That terrorism up to 11 changes nothing?

I didn't say that, I said it likely stops peace with Egypt, means Israel is left holding Sinai land, big change, it stops the war in Lebanon (at lest for a time) big change, early Intifada, likely looking more like OTL's second one big change, what I did so was no state on state war, thats not any where close to the same as "nothing happening"
 
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