Do you consider Adolf Hitler and the Main Nazi's Intelligent?.

The one's tried at Nuremburg had to undergo IQ tests - the least intelligent one was Streicher, with 106, so no idiot. They weren't stupid. Evil, yes, deluded, yes, stupid, no.
 

SsgtC

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The one's tried at Nuremburg had to undergo IQ tests - the least intelligent one was Streicher, with 106, so no idiot. They weren't stupid. Evil, yes, deluded, yes, stupid, no.

I don't know. I think I'd call anyone who starts a war that costs 80 million people their lives pretty f****n stupid.
 
I don't think intelligence figures into Nazism. Just a lust for power over people; intelligence not required, nor common sense. Because common sense will tell you that if you pick a fight with everybody else, sooner or later 'everybody else' is gonna get together and kick your ass.
 
Stupid any one who ... declares entire fields of science Jewish has to be pretty fucking stupid

Would this include the leaders of the Deutsche Physik ("German Physics") campaign in Nazi Germany?

That is, Philipp Lenard, Nobel Laureate in Physics, 1905, and Johannes Stark, Nobel Laureate in Physics, 1919?

There is a difference between folly and stupidity. Some categories of folly are only possible to very smart people.
 
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You do not manage to rule a country with an iron fist without being smart. However, being irrational animals, they had huge blind spots.
 
In my personal opinion Hitler wasn't that smart intellectually speaking and it was only because actual competent people were in the room (like Goring for instance) that the Nazis got off the ground and took power.
Anytime Hitler ignored the experts and followed his gut instinct things like Barbarossa happened.
That being said he did have a very high degree of emotional intelligence, that is he knew how to fire up a crowd and persuade others to do what he wanted.
 
Let's examine some of the more important ones case by case:

Göring scored the third highest on I.Q. tests at Nuremberg, so yes. However, he was a incompetent, showing intelligence is not everything.

Himmler was crazy but was better at running the SS than Göring was at the Luftwaffe. He just had good administrative skills for some reason. His subordinates may have played a part. Still, even that takes some skill.

Goebbels had a doctorate and sided with Speer in his conflicts with the aforementioned men.

Bormann was the model sycophant and basically became Hitler's right hand man.

Hess was even crazier than Himmler and probably unlike Bormann, actually worshipped Hitler.

Heydrich was probably smarter the Göring and had Himmler's administrative skills.

Ribbentrop was also a sycophant but people seemed to think he was bad at his job. I don't think he ever screwed up as Foreign Minister, so I don't know where this comes from.

Speer scored in the middle of the I.Q. tests (still high at 128). However, his actions during and after the war show him in a better light than these other Nazis.

Hitler was a know-it-all but the kind who doesn't understand what he knows.
 
We can parse IQ test results, but anyone who winds up in the gallows for monstrous crimes against humanity is missing something. It may not be "intelligence" per se, but something is terribly awry. Nazism was just flat-out batshit insane as an ideology; it was uniquely sick and twisted. To get mixed up in that requires some sort of blind spot in one's view of the world.
 
In your view were Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, and the rest of the Nazis "Intelligent " People?.

Unfortunately a world where only good guys are intelligent and evil stupid is one for fairytales, not for reality. Intelligence, wisdom and values are three different qualities. As others have pointed out, surviving Nazi leaders scored well in IQ tests.
 

Decius00009

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Intelligent people make stupid decisions all the time. Napoleon was an absolute genius, but he made some rotten moves. Alexander was far from stupid, but probably shouldn't have gotten drunk and burned Babylon. Nixon was a highly intelligent man, but was also batshit insane, which probably didn't help - though I would argue he gets bad press. To answer the question, few of them were stupid, though I think Hitler himself was fairly average; before the NSDAP, he was basically a shiftless, talentless loser. Himmler wasn't very bright. Speer, Goering, Döenitz, Heydrich, and probably Wolff were all highly intelligent men
 

ATP45

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In your view were Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, and the rest of the Nazis "Intelligent " People?.
In 1941 soviet soldiers surrender without a fight,and peasant welcome germans with flowers,becouse they think,that germans destroy kolchoz.German killed off most of prisoners and keep kolchoz with german directors.So soviet people start to fight.Germans was idiots and they lost war for that.
 
In 1941 soviet soldiers surrender without a fight,and peasant welcome germans with flowers,becouse they think,that germans destroy kolchoz.German killed off most of prisoners and keep kolchoz with german directors.So soviet people start to fight.Germans was idiots and they lost war for that.

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Let's examine some of the more important ones case by case:

Göring scored the third highest on I.Q. tests at Nuremberg, so yes. However, he was a incompetent, showing intelligence is not everything.

Himmler was crazy but was better at running the SS than Göring was at the Luftwaffe. He just had good administrative skills for some reason. His subordinates may have played a part. Still, even that takes some skill.

Goebbels had a doctorate and sided with Speer in his conflicts with the aforementioned men.

Bormann was the model sycophant and basically became Hitler's right hand man.

Hess was even crazier than Himmler and probably unlike Bormann, actually worshipped Hitler.

Heydrich was probably smarter the Göring and had Himmler's administrative skills.

Ribbentrop was also a sycophant but people seemed to think he was bad at his job. I don't think he ever screwed up as Foreign Minister, so I don't know where this comes from.

Speer scored in the middle of the I.Q. tests (still high at 128). However, his actions during and after the war show him in a better light than these other Nazis.

Hitler was a know-it-all but the kind who doesn't understand what he knows.
 
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