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Hendryk
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Does any of the aforementioned options allow the Taiping rebellion to be butterflied away, or the Qing dynasty to reform? Because that's pretty much the only way I can bring myself to care about the ACW 
That's one of the things I like about Frederick Townsend Ward. He knew where the real action was taking place.
That's one of the things I like about Frederick Townsend Ward. He knew where the real action was taking place.
Hendryk said:Does any of the aforementioned options allow the Taiping rebellion to be butterflied away, or the Qing dynasty to reform? Because that's pretty much the only way I can bring myself to care about the ACW
That's one of the things I like about Frederick Townsend Ward. He knew where the real action was taking place.
One of my timelines where the US split up after the American Revolution has the Taiping rebellion butterflied away. It's actually pretty easy. Hong Xiuquan (I think that's the current spelling) was inadvertently influenced by a Christian missionary from the US. With a different history of the US, that man could easily not be born, or at least never become a missionary. Of course, in my timeline China ends up split by the early 20th century between a Qing dynasty in the north that's basically a Russian puppet state, and a barely stable Chinese Republic in the south heavily dependent on Britain.
The US Civil War had at least one indirect effect on Ward in China - it put a lot of strain between him and his second in command in the "Ever Victorious Army", who was from North Carolina. Obviously, they had opposing sympathies in the US Civil War.
Overall, the US Civil War is a painfully obvious topic for anyone interested in both US history and alternate history. Although not as bloody, it was definitely more significant for US history than the Taiping rebellion was for Chinese history. China went through violent, bloody upheavels periodically, while the US has generally managed to keep its political transitions relatively peaceful - with one huge exception.
IMHO, anyone who complains that the Civil War receives too much attention is either ignorant of US history, or just looking for excuses to complain about anything.
NapoleonXIV
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The South allies with the Ottomans, who lay waste New York with their airships, however the North allies with the Taiping Chinese and Atlanta falls to the Tesla cannonade. The slaves revolt, however, and George Washington Carver develops the Atomic bomb under the auspices of Elijah McCoy. Confederate submarines nearly starve the North into submission while French Dreadnoughts are portaged by Fusion powered rocket sleds to the Great Lakes and soon bombard Chicago. Then the Race invades.
You know, I could do one with some really nice weapons technology if it took place in 1868. All I need is a compromise president and eight years for both sides to prepare.
Tanks, zeppelins, poison gas, submarines, torpedo boats with real torpedos, semiautomatic rifles, claymore mines, barbed wire, etc.
It could be done. WWI on the Russian front technology. No radios or airplanes, of course.
Tanks, zeppelins, poison gas, submarines, torpedo boats with real torpedos, semiautomatic rifles, claymore mines, barbed wire, etc.
It could be done. WWI on the Russian front technology. No radios or airplanes, of course.
The issues over the Mexician Territories lead to the tensions about the territories, which lead to the questions over state rights, which lead to the secession of the Southern States. With Texas aas an independant nation, and prehaps California following cllose I believe Polk decides "54' or fight" is the way to go and ceases British Columbia, whether is beat or not is two different timelines, but I still think that it is more likely the Civil War doesn't happen under the circumstances. The North is happy, and doesn't challange the South, while the South is content to be left to their own rights. Abloltion eventually wins out through legistlation and an ammendment.Straha said: