Discussion: War Happens Between NATO and China. What Happens Next?

Who would win in a war between NATO and China?

  • NATO

    Votes: 20 80.0%
  • China

    Votes: 5 20.0%

  • Total voters
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So let's say that the stories of police and government brutality and mistreatment of Uyghurs and protesters in Hong Kong keep getting worse and worse. Eventually, popular opinion in the West gets to be too much, and the western countries enter in a pact to put a massive trade embargo on China, unless China would agree to full transparency on treatment of minorities in China. Despite being faced with the total destruction of it's economy, China refuses. What happens next?
 
For your question: See Iran/Russia. They will maintain what they are doing getting popular support through nationalist rhetoric. Likely small skirmishes/proxy wars but unlikely to attack the West (except maybe Taiwan). America even under the most outrageously stupid President wouldn't try militarist regime change against China.

In an all out war, the West would win but at terrible nuclear cost. The Chinese Communist Party isn't going without a land invasion of the PRC which would likely see nukes fly.

In a limited, China aggression scenario,the US, Taiwan, Japan, SK and Aus/NZ should be able to put China back in its boots but wouldn't result in any changes in China. EU likely to materially support but not armed support against China unless UN approved action or very bad unprovoked attack on ally.
 

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This scenario is ASB. Nobody actually cares about Uighurs or Hong Kong enough to let it harm their economic bottom line. Pretty much the only thing that could cause "a massive trade embargo" on China would be unprovoked total war on Southeast Asia, Korea, or India. Even an invasion of Taiwan, border war with India, or naval war over the nine-dash line would trigger only limited sanctions from the EU. Only the first scenario is likely to see American military involvement.
 
This is probably chat material. If not it's still on the wrong board given that its about a hypothetical near future conflict rather than a historical one.
 
I mean... NATO is a largely defensive alliance (mainly against Russia) for starters, and most of its members are based in Europe. China would need to start it by attacking the US.

My simple question is how does NATO fight China? It would mostly just be the US and Canada(?). South Korea, Australia and NZ aren't part of NATO, neither is Japan or Taiwan and the European powers have entire continents between them.

My money is on China because NATO won't be able to do much besides bomb things with planes from US carriers. Itd mainly be a US affair.
 
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South Korea, Australia and NZ aren't part of NATO, neither is Japan or Taiwan and the European powers have entire continents between them.

I feel that they would help out. Doesn't Japan have a defensive pact with the USA?

Either way, my money is on the USA and Allies. The PRC's economy will be crippled and it will become an international pariah if they instigate conflict. Eventually? Military victory will also follow.
 
War could come if main land China attacks other China. The US sends in 5(?) carriers plus support ships and floods Japan with more aircraft and missiles based left right and centre and this will not include what the UN may send in. China will come off second best even if just airfields, ports, army bases are targeted. Of course if Kim decides to have a go at South Korea, at the same time things will get very messy indeed.
 
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