Discussion: Native American Exile?

So this idea just kinda popped into my head today:

Was there ever any discussion of sending off the Native peoples of the United States onto one enormous reservation somewhere else (Africa perhaps?) instead of killing, robbing, and eventually partitioning them?

The proud natives of the continent had a deep connection with their land and would surely have never gone for this quietly without some sort of combination reward/punishment for going or refusing to go, respectively. Incentive ideas are up in the air too, I have no clue about that one.

If there was never any concept of this, let's say there was and discuss the effects of a Native American state someplace else. (Trying to think like a typical 19th Century American bigot, I thought of Liberia as a candidate. Thinking that way is much harder than it appears, by the way.)

I think you get the picture. In my head I'm seeing this awesome Afro-Apache war force on the "dark continent" modernizing and blah, blah, blah... but I'm looking for the plausible.

Anyone?
 
So this idea just kinda popped into my head today:

Was there ever any discussion of sending off the Native peoples of the United States onto one enormous reservation somewhere else (Africa perhaps?) instead of killing, robbing, and eventually partitioning them?

The proud natives of the continent had a deep connection with their land and would surely have never gone for this quietly without some sort of combination reward/punishment for going or refusing to go, respectively. Incentive ideas are up in the air too, I have no clue about that one.

If there was never any concept of this, let's say there was and discuss the effects of a Native American state someplace else. (Trying to think like a typical 19th Century American bigot, I thought of Liberia as a candidate. Thinking that way is much harder than it appears, by the way.)

I think you get the picture. In my head I'm seeing this awesome Afro-Apache war force on the "dark continent" modernizing and blah, blah, blah... but I'm looking for the plausible.

Anyone?

They can be sent to Mexico.
 
They moved them westward over the Mississippi but they just kept coming...

That's not really what I meant. Maybe an earlier concept of Manifest Destiny is a good POD. IIRC, there was something along the lines of the Union probably needing to expand drastically by the Federalists in the nation's infancy. (I forget why this made sense to me when I read it or even how it was extrapolated by me... I just realized how long it's been since I read the Federalist Papers...)

At any rate, anything that results in shipping Natives to their own territory overseas (I keep coming back to Africa) would work. Preferably resulting in a proud and stable government, I'm not trying to eff over Amerindians by any means.
 
Depends. Everytime the Native Americans were promised a land where they weren't to be bothered by the government or settlers, they were eventually stabbed in the back.
 
So, basically you want to ship them off somewhere else.

I Imagine this would be very expensive, and probably more effort that it's worth.
 
Depends. Everytime the Native Americans were promised a land where they weren't to be bothered by the government or settlers, they were eventually stabbed in the back.

Which is why I guess I envisioned a Liberia-esque situation, or even Liberia as the location for ex-slaves and Amerindians alike. I don't know where to find any population statistics and I refuse to pull some out of my arse, so any ideas how many Amerindians total could be relocated by the mid-1800's?
 
So, basically you want to ship them off somewhere else.

I Imagine this would be very expensive, and probably more effort that it's worth.

To clarify:

I do not want to ship anyone anywhere. I'm only asking what would have happened if this had been a feasible idea at the time.

I don't think it would have been that expensive, or at least, it would have been less expensive than the series of "Indian Wars" the country has indulged in over the years...
 
Which is why I guess I envisioned a Liberia-esque situation, or even Liberia as the location for slaves and Amerindians alike. I don't know where to find any population statistics and I refuse to pull some out of my arse, so any ideas how many Amerindians total could be relocated by the mid-1800's?

Depends. What's going to convince the Native Americans to go to some distant land where it's likely most of them will die of either tropical diseases or warring with the local Africans who won't take kindly to strangers coming in. It tastes of sweet bitter irony. OTL Liberia is an absolute nightmare for anyone to live in.
 
Depends. What's going to convince the Native Americans to go to some distant land where it's likely most of them will die of either tropical diseases or warring with the local Africans who won't take kindly to strangers coming in. It tastes of sweet bitter irony. OTL Liberia is an absolute nightmare for anyone to live in.

When I was musing on it I envisioned the Native American population stabilizing the nation somehow. They've certainly shown a propensity for turning lemons into lemonade throughout history.
 
To clarify:

I do not want to ship anyone anywhere. I'm only asking what would have happened if this had been a feasible idea at the time.

then Why even bring up this:

At any rate, anything that results in shipping Natives to their own territory overseas (I keep coming back to Africa) would work.

if that's not Your Intention?

I don't think it would have been that expensive, or at least, it would have been less expensive than the series of "Indian Wars" the country has indulged in over the years...

So..basically the Indian Territory actually working the way it was meant to?
 
When I was musing on it I envisioned the Native American population stabilizing the nation somehow. They've certainly shown a propensity for turning lemons into lemonade throughout history.

....eh? Have you been to some of the Lakota reservations?

Basicly it comes to a fault in that no one would want to ship them off anywhere. They would resist and no one else would want to pay to ship them off overseas to most likely die. The reason why they moved them all over the Mississippi was because their was so much land they thought they could just put them out there and forget about them...which worked for alittle while.
 
In early colonial times there were a lot of Native Americans taken into slavery and exiled elsewhere in the New World, especially the Caribbean. For example, there's a community on St. David's Island in Bermuda descended from Wampanoag prisoners-of-war (though they have long been mistakenly identified as "Mohawks"). Though not as applicable to the OP's question, the Garifuna in Central America and the Choctaw-Apache Tribe of Ebarb in Louisiana formed in much the same way.

Maybe that's a direction to look at... Though by the time the United States appeared on the scene, I don't think there were any empty islands left in the Caribbean.
 
Assimilation into American society was the over all goal. It was felt if they were schooled, gave up their 'old' ways, became farmers, etc. they could be integrated. Basically they were to be treated the same way that any immigrant crossing the threshold at Ellis Island would have been.
 
in OTL, several groups of Native Americans went to western Canada. The Nez Perce were trying to get there on their famous run (never understood why the US Government just didn't let them go... it would have solved a problem)...
 
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