(Dis)united States of America.

Is it possible to have multiple nations to form in North America instead of a single United States? Let's say, for example, the 13 colonies doesn't expand because the other states decided to for their own nation instead of joining them.
 
Most plausible event would be the forming of Florida and Louisiana countries. As for west, I don't think Mexico would give independence to any of its territories.
 
Mexico never recognized any rebelling territories but it didn't stop them from forming independent countries and other nations from recognizing them, even if most failed or were short-lived.

I'm working on a somewhat balkanized Western North America timeline. The hardest part is avoiding Manifest Destiny. If the colonies are less united in the beginning then the Louisiana Purchase could possibly be butterflied away.
 
Is it possible to have multiple nations to form in North America instead of a single United States? Let's say, for example, the 13 colonies doesn't expand because the other states decided to for their own nation instead of joining them.

I think large chunks of them at the least would have to band together for protection and trade. I think you could realistically split them into 3 groups, tops, with 2 (Northern and Southern states) being more plausible.

But there was also a strong incentive for this not to happen, because it would make it look like the nation was failing at the outset.
 
Off the top of my head, don't have Thomas Jefferson be President during the Napoleonic Wars, so the Louisiana Purchase doesn't go through.
 
Off-hand, a major boost in the formation of a unified "US"/"American" identity was the shared war against Great Britain. If Great Britain wins the original American Revolutionary War but, in a later war, gives up North America fairly peacefully while frantically drawing troops back to Europe to defend the British homeland because of a threat posed to it by an alliance of several other European great powers (such an alliance formed IOTL, merely using the American Revolutionary War as an excuse to declare war on Great Britain and thus break the period of British world hegemony that had been set in motion by the end of the Seven Years' War—in this scenario they would simply find a different excuse later on) there would be much less sentiment for unification between the various colonies of British America.

I'll leave it to those who know more about American history than I do to comment on precisely which divisions would be likely to form in this scenario; I've traditionally heard New York, a unified New England, Pennsylvania, Virginia and a unified rest-of-the-South but I have little idea how accurate it is, especially with the not-so-illustrious history of the united Dominion of New England (created by the Jacobites and deposed as William and Mary took the throne) IOTL.
 
Is it possible to have multiple nations to form in North America instead of a single United States? Let's say, for example, the 13 colonies doesn't expand because the other states decided to for their own nation instead of joining them.

Well, if the Constitution fails to get signed.....there's quite a few possibilities as to where the dice may fall. One scenario I can think of might be a Mid-Atlantic centered Federal America in the North, and a *Confederate America in the south, with Virginia possibly in the middle between the two.
 
Is it possible to have multiple nations to form in North America instead of a single United States? Let's say, for example, the 13 colonies doesn't expand because the other states decided to for their own nation instead of joining them.

Technically, that's otl.

Canada
USA
Mexico
Newfoundland
?France (st. Pierre & miquelon)
If you count the caribbean, well theres a bucket load more, there.
 
Technically, that's otl.

Canada
USA
Mexico
Newfoundland
?France (st. Pierre & miquelon)
If you count the caribbean, well theres a bucket load more, there.

Details...details

If the Constitutional convention failed due to self interest, petty rivalries, jealousies, ego (sound like the current congress doesn't it) I can see the union falling apart or at best, stagnating.

Without a constitutional US there are no strong presidents, no manifest destiny, and probably no Louisiana Purchase...who could afford it.

I could see New England, New York and Pennsylvania banding together and perhaps expanding into the Ohio and the southern shores of the Great Lakes.

Virginia I think would remain separate, perhaps with Maryland, and also go west (don't forget that it includes West Virginia at this time.

The Carolinas would try to go it alone, but eventually be absorbed by Virginia.

Of course, if the English return in 1812, all bets for survival are off.
 
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