Diggers, Dervishes and Dungaree's - Gallipoli Succeeded

Very cool so far! I must admit that I had a brief random thought of the Gallipoli campaign on my drive to work this morning, but what ultimately got me to check this thread out was the superfluous apostrophe you have in the title. I'll admit, it's my greatest grammatical pet-peeve. Being neither here nor there, I must ask as the TL itself - "A minor sidenote during the initial week was the deportation of the small Armenian community of the Gallipoli Peninsula, this occurred as prelude to the wider part of the 1915 "Tehcir Massacre"." - Can you shed some light on this event currently, or is that down the pipe and 'Read and Find Out?'
 
On the map it looks like the British are on the heights (Achi Baba) behind Krithia. Is that correct? This would make that position utterly untenable as it has the Krithia salient in enfilade plus the British would have Turkish LOC under observation.
 
On the map it looks like the British are on the heights (Achi Baba) behind Krithia. Is that correct? This would make that position utterly untenable as it has the Krithia salient in enfilade plus the British would have Turkish LOC under observation.

They'd only just arrived at the position and got pushed back by a Turkish counter-assault.
 
Very cool so far! I must admit that I had a brief random thought of the Gallipoli campaign on my drive to work this morning, but what ultimately got me to check this thread out was the superfluous apostrophe you have in the title. I'll admit, it's my greatest grammatical pet-peeve. Being neither here nor there, I must ask as the TL itself - "A minor sidenote during the initial week was the deportation of the small Armenian community of the Gallipoli Peninsula, this occurred as prelude to the wider part of the 1915 "Tehcir Massacre"." - Can you shed some light on this event currently, or is that down the pipe and 'Read and Find Out?'
The latter I fear.
 
My thanks, I don't want to go into detail about the outcome but suffice to say it is different from OTL in several... rather glaring ways.

I can't see any explanation of what the POD was, that is WHY the landings went so much better.

Yes they went better, and I notice in the altered timeline a certain Lieutenant Colonel Kemal is not mentioned. So presumably he was KIA early and the action he took was critical.

But why would his action so far north affect the British landings at Helles? They were hugely more successful, far more ground taken.

What happened?
 
Interlude 1 - The Ides of May
Diggers, Dervishes and Dungaree's - Interlude 1 - The Ides of May

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Article on the near-sinking of the Lusitania - An Incident which almost led to American Involvement in the Great War

The German campaign of unrestricted submarine warfare was by the standards of its time, both innovative and destructively effective, but on May 7th of 1915, the campaign was brought to an ignominious end when a passenger ship named the Lusitania, alleged by Germany to be carrying weapons, was torpedoed off of the Irish coast, only barely making it into port before she sunk. The American government, more specifically President Woodrow Wilson, who had almost 400 of its citizens on the passenger liner, sent such a strongly worded telegram to the German ambassador that Johan von Bernstorff said to the Kaiser in a encoded message - "The American President has threatened Germany with war should another ship bearing its citizens be sunk, after conferring with my colleagues I am inclined to believe he is not being farcical in this matter." - The unrestricted submarine warfare programme would thereafter be reduced to a more targeted removal of Royal Navy vessels and British merchantmen, much to the distaste of the Kaiser.


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News Article advertising settlement on Native lands in 1910


Under the administrations of Woodrow Wilson and the later presidents of the 1910's and 20's, the relationship between the Native population and the American government grew ever worse, the Society of American Indians, seemingly the only organisation advocating for the actual rights of the Native population, was oft ignored by the government, which relied upon the Bureau of Indian Affairs to manage the native population, including the systematic destruction of the reservation system. This led to, at the time, seemingly little unrest on part of the native population, but many figures who would later become prominent during the 1920's strife, Chauncey Yellow Robe, Marie Baldwin and Dennison Wheelock most notably, were members of the Society, and perhaps the nature of events which would follow can be inferred from that.



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Italian Declaration of War

The Italian declaration of neutrality was shocking to the Triple Alliance, but far more shocking was in 1915 when the Italian government declared war upon them. The 3rd of May had seen a official repudiation of the Alliance, but many German and Austrian figures had assumed this was merely further neutrality rather than malicious action on part of the Italians, the anti-war faction held a majority in parliament after all. But to Austria's horror, the 23rd of May saw the Italians launch an assault upon her alpine and Istrian territories, she was now at war on 3 fronts, some argued that it was two fronts too many.


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Alexander Berkman addresses crowd

The Labor movement in the United States gained traction during the Great War, a combination of poor working standards and general unrest at the thought of what entering the war would mean, specifically conscription, reinvigorated several organisations. Nativist movements, long present though lacking in true influence, made headlines as they advocated for cessation of emigration and a advocation of laws such as prohibition of alcohol, whilst on the left of politics figures like Eugene Debs and Big Bill Haywood made notoriety for their advocating for workers rights. It was during this period too that many future figures of the American socialist movement such as Alexander Berkman and Emma Goldstein achieve true importance on a national scale, Berkman especially honed his oratory in the factory and dockside districts of New York.



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John Perishing, the Iron Marshal

On a more minor note, General John Perishing celebrated the sixth birthday of his son Francis in 1915, a year when he was recorded to first associate with influential figures in both big business and the nativist movement.


Authors Notes -

This is a little "interlude chapter" which i'm doing because nothing of note occurs in Gallipoli in late may/early June. Until the Gallipoli campaign ends, this is how I will cover the outside world.

 
There seems to be little mention of French forces yet they were a very significant portion of the Allied forces suffering greater casualties than the Anzacs IIRC.
 
I can't see any explanation of what the POD was, that is WHY the landings went so much better.

Yes they went better, and I notice in the altered timeline a certain Lieutenant Colonel Kemal is not mentioned. So presumably he was KIA early and the action he took was critical.

But why would his action so far north affect the British landings at Helles? They were hugely more successful, far more ground taken.

What happened?

Better naval support took out a few high ranking officers, shaking the Ottoman command structure. Followed up by a slightly better performance by not quite so weary troops (not as weary from not being suppressed on beaches.) And over the course of about a week they slog through to the positions on the map, where the Ottoman counterattack forces them back slightly, turning the situation into a proper battle rather than a protracted one sided slugfest.

This still isn't what the command wanted, they expected more advances more quickly.

There seems to be little mention of French forces yet they were a very significant portion of the Allied forces suffering greater casualties than the Anzacs IIRC.

I believe I mentioned them? Regardless, right here they've taken the brunt of fighting north of Krithea.
 

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My two pennies worth, the loss of several Turkish leaders would delay the Turkish response. Additional naval gunfire support will help the Allied landings and defense. However, are the commanders stressing the need to seize the heights and move further outward from the beaches? Has anyone planned for water delivery during the landing operations. Did anyone consider taking Kabatepe the first day? I still dislike the Allies spliting the forces by landing at Cape Hellas. Cut the peninsula to Eceabat. Finish off the 19th Division later. Oh, wait, the British did not have up to date intel.

Sorry if I sound sarcastic. This was not the finest hour for either the British Army or the Royal Navy. They would have fumbled the ball at Alexandretta also.

Despite this, I would like to see where you end up.
 
My two pennies worth, the loss of several Turkish leaders would delay the Turkish response. Additional naval gunfire support will help the Allied landings and defense. However, are the commanders stressing the need to seize the heights and move further outward from the beaches? Has anyone planned for water delivery during the landing operations. Did anyone consider taking Kabatepe the first day? I still dislike the Allies spliting the forces by landing at Cape Hellas. Cut the peninsula to Eceabat. Finish off the 19th Division later. Oh, wait, the British did not have up to date intel.

Sorry if I sound sarcastic. This was not the finest hour for either the British Army or the Royal Navy. They would have fumbled the ball at Alexandretta also.

Despite this, I would like to see where you end up.

Right at the moment the goal of the Gallipoli force is to unite the forces and take the southern edge of the peninsula. Once that happens they intend to push up and take the peninsula wholesale.

We'll see how that goes.
 
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