Different Versailles

Perkeo

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You're still criticising the method and concept.

If the cow has - somehow - caused all of the farmer's supplies of milk to be lost and wasted, then I can understand why said farmer might want more milk out of the cow responsible.

It may not make sense, but even if the farmer doesn't want to squeeze so much, the farmhands (who have, in this increasingly tortured analogy, been dying in the milking parlour, and have the ability to throw the farmer out on his arse) may demand it anyway. I never said that it worked. I said that there were reasons why DLG supported reparations, and ones of such scale.

I believe it was popularised by Denis Healey, who was significantly later, yes. However, that was the phrasing Draco used.
Once again, the problem isn't the amount of reparations. I wouldn't have minded the Entent saying "you pay 150 billion Gold Marks, period " and I even think chances are good that Germany would have actually have paid 150 billion Gold Marks. But instead they said "You will never be able to pay all you owe" and wondered that the Germans added "so there isn't really a point in trying".
And as for the " wrong but understandable" argument, it was their bloody job to make a peace that works, but instead each and every peace treaty from the Paris conference ended up in a bloody war. If my boss assigns me to an important project, and literally everything that comes out of it ends up in disaster, for reasons that are perfectly obvious to a professional, I get my ass kicked. And I do not get a prime minister's salary.
Germany triggered and lost the war because the government didn't do its job, the Allies lost the peace because their governments didn't do theirs.
 
@Perkeo: we're still talking at crossed purposes, so I don't think that there is much point in continuing this discussion.

No, conversation is good.
It's just that you guys started to used really weird cow analogies that don't explain anything.
Analogies are good only for explaining new concepts. They're really terrible as arguments.
 
No, conversation is good.
It's just that you guys started to used really weird cow analogies that don't explain anything.
Analogies are good only for explaining new concepts. They're really terrible as arguments.
I didn't start. I used the analogy given to me.

Nevertheless, we are talking at crossed purposes, and I don't think that will change.
 
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