Different Political Party Formation

In OTL the creation of the Republican party was not a sure thing and depended on a variety of unique conditions. What other political parties can be formed when the Whigs collaspe besides than the Republicans?
 
Yea but the American Party wasn't really successful. I guess what I'm trying to ask is what type of successful political parties can come out of the whigs collaspe. It just seems that every civil war timeline, besides those that have the csa win, have the same democratic and republican parties.
 
Maybe the Free Soil Party could replace the Whigs if they fleshed out their platform instead of remaining a single issue party.
 
If the Whigs collapse sooner I could see a rebirth of the Liberty party, and the formation of a slavery neutral CU-esque party.
 
So you want, what exactly? The Republican Party under a different name? Because that is what the Liberty or Free Soil Parties being more successful after the Whig collapse is going to entail. They are going to have to try to absorb the exact same constituencies that the Republicans did IOTL following the Whig collapse and they are going to do it with platforms that are quite similar.

The most interesting alternate option is the American Party because they could stand a chance of absorbing old Whigs and retaining relative neutrality on the slavery and sectional issues of the time. Many of them were absorbed IOTL into the Republican Party so you still have that difficulty to deal with, but they could be sufficiently different to merit discussion.

At the point of the Whig's collapse, most chance of compromise is dead, however. The Democratic Party has swung too far to the side of slavery and compromise on the part of the North is viewed as treason to many on the South. For this reason, most attempts to bridge that divide (such as a Constitutional Union parallel) are doomed to failure. Beyond that, any tripartite split just isn't going to last very long in American electoral politics.
 
So you want, what exactly? The Republican Party under a different name? Because that is what the Liberty or Free Soil Parties being more successful after the Whig collapse is going to entail. They are going to have to try to absorb the exact same constituencies that the Republicans did IOTL following the Whig collapse and they are going to do it with platforms that are quite similar.

The most interesting alternate option is the American Party because they could stand a chance of absorbing old Whigs and retaining relative neutrality on the slavery and sectional issues of the time. Many of them were absorbed IOTL into the Republican Party so you still have that difficulty to deal with, but they could be sufficiently different to merit discussion.

At the point of the Whig's collapse, most chance of compromise is dead, however. The Democratic Party has swung too far to the side of slavery and compromise on the part of the North is viewed as treason to many on the South. For this reason, most attempts to bridge that divide (such as a Constitutional Union parallel) are doomed to failure. Beyond that, any tripartite split just isn't going to last very long in American electoral politics.

What if the Democrats permanetly splinter?
 
Well, seeing as how the United States uses FPTP, I don't see why you'd need more reasons. BUT, with one party controlling, for almost all intents and purposes, the electoral votes of the South and their congressional representation, its going to be pretty hard to fragment the Northern vote even more senselessly than they did IOTL. The rise in sectionalism from the 1840s on pretty much demands that you will get a Northern Party and a Southern Party.
 
Maybe the changes begin with the Whigs. Instead of John Quincy Adams and his Adams Men, the post-Federalist organization that ultimately becomes the Whigs or National Republicans; in fact for the sake of just representing an ATL party with a name of equivalent generic quality, the National Party; are the Anti-Masonic Party.

OTL the Anti-Masonic Party had pretty much the same platform (internal improvements, protective tariffs) + a populist wave of anti-elitism centered around the idea that Masons in public office where a pervasive conspiracy of men corrupt with power that subverted public institutions (by favoring other Masons in court, etc.). And with Jackson a prominent Mason, this also meant hyper-partisanship.

So instead of the Whigs being accused of stealing the Jackson platform, of being a pale imitation, instead of John Quincy Adams trying to weld both post-Federalist and ex-Democratic tendencies into something acceptable to the dominant Democratic (or that is Republican) culture of the time, you have the former Anti-Masonic Party being the core kernel of organization in which the new party forms, the National Party.

So its the Whigs but instead of pretending to be Democratic-like to try to get votes that way (triangulation), they go with hyper-partisan attacks and basically try to build up a strong ideological movement. Build up over some decades in the manner of the Conservative Revolution of 20th century America you might say.

Where the Whigs shattered and you had various groups including many with different ideas from the old American system of the Whigs forming, with agrarian labor politics and free trade and other single-issue movements, here you instead have a *Whig Party, the National Party, that survives and because its internal culture is based around dogmatic and hyper-partisan rejection of the Democrats, they have not had much room at all for changing their core platform. So by the time it is their turn to start doing well in elections, by the time of Republicans challenging the Democratic-led consensus on slavery, it is instead the National Party; who are if anything even more anti-Democrat than Radical Republican abolitionists, just not out of abolitionism.

In fact, the Northern evangelical fire that was channeled into abolitionism OTL is perhaps in ATL directed at Masons, Catholics, the Illuminati, Freethinkers, Democrats, and so on.
 
Now, that is an interesting idea. Essentially, no Whig collapse, with the established party picking up the issues of the time.
 
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