Different alliances, longer WW1 analogue

Suppose Germany allied with Russia in the 1890s, they were both authoritarian states, and Germany was frankly a more obviously compatable ally than France.

Russia was also in many ways a natural enemy of both the British and Ottoman empire.

If this was the situation would there still be a war. I am guessing that in due course Japan and the US would join Anglo French ottoman forces
 
Suppose Germany allied with Russia in the 1890s, they were both authoritarian states, and Germany was frankly a more obviously compatable ally than France.

Russia was also in many ways a natural enemy of both the British and Ottoman empire.

If this was the situation would there still be a war. I am guessing that in due course Japan and the US would join Anglo French ottoman forces

There is a TL here that details a variation on a very similar scenario with a PoD in the Russo-Japanese war.
I am not sure how things would work out, though.
Franco-British alliance wasn't obvious in the 1890s, and Russo-Austrian alliance would be problematic at best, though not impossible.
OTL WWI was basically triggered by Austro-Russian rivalry.

On paper, Russia+Germany+Austria= utter and quick curbstomp for the alt-Entente, if the military situation is similar to WWI as we know it. Which it obviously wouldn't. A decade of different alliances, if not more, means a decade of different planning and military choices, including Germany likely focused on navy even more than OTL.
 
Suppose Germany allied with Russia in the 1890s, they were both authoritarian states, and Germany was frankly a more obviously compatable ally than France.

Russia was also in many ways a natural enemy of both the British and Ottoman empire.

If this was the situation would there still be a war. I am guessing that in due course Japan and the US would join Anglo French ottoman forces

Germany, Russia and Italy would roll over a quintuple alliance of Britain, France, Austria, the Ottomans and Japan.

Italy would certainly side with Germany and Russia since both their irredentist targets would be in the other alliance.

The Austrians would be surrounded and be obliterated within months. The war would probably only last three years at most.
 
If you get the USA un-isolated and in with that Entente things could get really nasty.

How would it get involved? Germany wouldn't need to resort to unrestricted submarine warfare if it's getting grain imported from Russia.
 
How would it get involved? Germany wouldn't need to resort to unrestricted submarine warfare if it's getting grain imported from Russia.
If they were somehow in the alliance system from the start. Maybe a later Spanish American War actually sparks the Great War when the Americans try attacking the Canary Islands or something and the Germans try to get them not to interfere in Europe or some such.
 
If the alt-WWI started earlier, that would bring the more interventionist Republicans "in" when the the war started, who'd probably want in almost immediately. And that's a double with espresso if you can start in TR's Admin because he totally loved it. Though a much earlier war would mean no tank able to move over turf. The WW2 GOP isolationism was a later result of Wilsonian screwups from going insane, and natural opposition, which'd probably be butterlied into Democratic opposition if it were a Republican war.

And the Commonwealth'd, including Canada'd, be likely brought in like OTL with a British Imperial entry.

And, OTL there was earlier tension between Willy II and us, He was doing war plans for an American invasion, and had hopes of taking us down a notch, albeit ala dumb, as was his wont. Which might also help an earlier war.

Now, trying to think of how to bring in more than one Latin American nation?
 
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Russia was allied with Germany and Austria through the three emperors league and alliance at various points but the formal alliance lapsed in 1887.
The problem was growing Russian pan slavism and the impact of support in that movement for Serbia which obviously threatened Austrian interests.
It had also become apparent to Bismark that the new Russian Emperor and his wife were significantly more anti-german than Alexander II had been.
However the reinsurrance treaty between Alexander III's Russia and the German Empire still existed - Germany's decision in 1890 not to renew it because in part the Kaiser believed falsely that his personal relationship with Alexander III was good drove Russia to sign an alliance with France in 1892.
It was followed by the Anglo-French entente in 1904 and the Anglo Russian convention over Persia in 1907.

Russia was naturally an ally of Germany but had been rebuffed in 1890 by the Kaiser - additional problems were the personal relationship between Nicholas (his wife and mother) and the Kaiser which to a certain extent did not help matters at all in terms of crafting some Russo-German alliance.

Assuming Wilhelm renews the reinsurrance treaty in 1890 and there is no Russo-French entente then you might tie the two countries for longer - but it might have collapsed in the 1890s anyway - and their neutrality in war did not apply if Germany attacked France or Russia attacked Austria-Hungary.

It is the improving of British French and British Russian relations in the early 1900s that drove the three powers together into the triple alliance and it was largely German policy and Wilhelm's actions and legendary indiscreet talk that drove them to it.
 
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