Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Hindustani Person, Aug 17, 2019.
What does anyone here think about a HOI4 mod with this plot? Probably after we're done though.
Can you change it so that Louis Ferdinand rules until 1994 and the current Kaiser is Friedrich IV?
I saw this as the butterfly effect. Why would you like Friedrich IV. better?
I feel like the butterfly effect isn’t going to change royal lines
Shall we make rules about this?
I would think that births (and deaths) are some of the easiest things to change by the butterfly effect.
Yes. What do others think? I did choose real members of the House of Hohenzollern.
I had some thoughts about the Romanist states: Spain, Italy, Portugal, South Greece, and the Southern Cone of South America.
Maybe, Romanism is not characterised by a totalitarian dictatorship, but by an illiberal presidential democracy (like Hungary or Singapore, maybe Russia-level?), where the President can - in case of a self-declared (and thus more or less arbitrary) national emergency/state of crisis/... - assume dictatorial powers for, say, three years? Five years? Which might even happen regularly, but that in principle, a form of democracy might exist.
That (with a "dictator" period of originally six months AFAIK) was the system of the Roman Empire at one time, at least.
EDIT: Regarding the monarchs, we should first find a consesus. Or do you want to hold a poll?
In the process of making this timeline, creative differences have been found between me (Rooin Mahmood) and Red Arturoist (Toni Verff) on whether we shall use fictional or real people in this timeline. I have decided to make some rules on it, that the both of us
would agree on, as would others-
All contributors to this timeline may be free to either include real or fictional people in this work
In terms of royal succession, real pretenders and members of the family shall be used unless we are talking about a fictional marriage
Both fictional and real politicians are allowed to be used
The further away from the POD, more liberties are allowed
There is no 5
I don't like rule 4
But actually, yeah, I think that this makes sense. I might also suggest that the further away from the POD, the more liberties that one can take regarding fictional characters
But closer to the POD, one should try to retain more real characters and events
Fianna Fail Wins Majority in the Irish Parliement; Will This Mean the End of the Monarchy?
(B.N.C News*, September 2nd, 2019)
How Did this Happen?
A few months ago, the Irish Parliement (called the Oireachtas in Gaelic) held a vote of no confidence against the Fine Gael government. The Fine Gael party, the conservative, Pro-German party which has held the majority over the Parliement for most of Ireland's history, has recently been plagued by scandals and corruption. This was not helped by the increasing popularity of the right-wing Renua (literally "New Era") party. After the resignation of the last Taioseach, or Prime Minister, the increasingly popular, liberal nationalist party Fianna Fail called for a vote of no confidence. An emergency election was postponed for several months by Fine Gael, but was finally held a few weeks ago. Fine Gael came off as "incompetent and corrupt" to many people, and the Fianna Fail-Labour coalition was extremely popular in the Northern and Western parts of the Country. The right-of-centre vote was split between the remnants of Fine Gael, the Ulster Party, and Renua.
What Will This Mean for Ireland?
Fianna Fail was formed after the Irish Civil War by Eamon De Valera in 1922. Its main goal was the peaceful transition of Ireland from a Monarchy to a Presidential Federal Republic. It has mainly worked towards this goal by trying to weaken the power of the King through constitutional amendments and laws. But now that Fianna Fail has a majority, and can probably swing the entire left vote, due to their economic policies, many expect them to demand a constitutional convention, where they will disband the monarchy once and for all. The Irish monarchy has been a controversial issue since its establishment, due to the king being from the old Prussian Von Hohenzollern family, as a condition of Germany's backing of the Irish Rebels during the war for Independence. The current king, Iaochim II, has refused to comment on the issue.
Another major issue is changing Ireland's flag. Taioseach Michael O'Brian* has stated that "The Flag of our nation should not be defaced with another country's symbol", but others have stated that the symbol in the Canton is not a symbol of German dominance, but of the German Volunteers who fought with the Irish partisans in the war of independence. A flag referendum is scheduled for next year.
Inset: The Flag of Ireland
The controversial flag of Ireland. The Green stripe is for the Irish Catholics, the Gold stripe is for the Irish Protestants, and the White stripe is for peace, liberty, and unity.
The Canton symbolizes the revolutionary movement that won Ireland her independence. The symbol is that of the German Volunteers, while the blue comes from the Blue Harp Flag.
What Does This Mean for Britain?
Several experts Have said that Ireland will "not attempt the political and economic nightmare of trying to leave the European Federation", but there will still probably be a souring of relations between Ireland and Germany for a while, especially if the king is removed. Some believe that Ireland might beef up its military, and possibly intervene in the crisis in Scotland. Yet others think that perhaps Ireland and Britain can come to an agreement, and maybe even become allies.
The future of Ireland remains uncertain, but it will certainly be something to watch for in years to come.
Bombing in York Kills 2, S.S.R.F Claims Responsibility
American Fighter Jet Shot Down Over Sukhumi
Poland Deploys Troops to the German Border for "Security Reasons"
Punjab Selected for the 2021 summer Olympics
* B.N.C= British National Channel
S.S.R.F= Scottish Socialist Republican Front. Basically the IRA, but Socialist, and in Scotland
Here, I can present another creation - I love how it turned out:
Season 2019/20 of the Erste Reichsliga! I depicted the promotion from Zweite Reichsliga West and Zweite Reichsliga Ost and the playoff rounds, too:
And I revised the map again. I revised the border of China in the Ningxia/Gansu area, I united Indonesia as @KaiserEmu proposed, and I eliminated subdivisions in a number of states which had 2019 subdivisions.
What do you think of this timeline (especially of our latest ideas for China), @Xianfeng Emperor and @Used-to-be Song Chinese ?
Also, may I work - at least to an extent - on most of Western Europe (France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium,...) and possibly on other members of the EFDG (which is probably you meant with "European Federation", @mikroraptor )?
What do you think of keeping the White Rajah regime in Sarawak alive? Until today, or at least until the 1980s-1990s with the help of Bruneian oil money?
China in 1937
This is my idea for TTLs Democracy Index ranking, in the form of a map:
What do you think about it? Credit to the colour scheme of course goes to @Crazy Boris and @ML8991 , but I made an in-universe explanation why the colour scheme used here is called THICC
Of course, the rankings are open to change. Especially India is basically provisional - that is the area of @Hindustani Person .
Any questions? What do you think of it - would you advice to change the ranking of a specific nation?
I think that Montana should score a little higher. Also, why does Illyria have two colors, and why are the Netherlands and Flanders flawed democracies?
Doubtful when you are in a civil war. It would likely be one of the better Hybrid regimes, though.
In the areas of Croatia marked "totalitarian", active persecutions are ongoing. Croatia is ultra-natonalist and ultra-conservative and persecutes Muslims (in Bosnia) and Serbs.
Flanders is not that democratic because it is pretty anti-Communist. Imagine McCarthyism. And the Netherlands are, as a Commune, not that democratic, though still better than France.
And here is the Index of Press and Net Freedom. The same caveats (credit to @Crazy Boris for the colour scheme again), e.g. provisional character especially in India, apply:
Since when is Yunnan a bastion of human rights and democracy? What happened?
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