That would lead to a third, British/"Angloid" branch of *fascism. An interesting concept indeed as this branch could, e.g., have a party in the US and many other countries. Indeed it makes sense (maybe even seeing the British Empire as the "New Roman Empire" etc.?)
Die Alte Welt Hat Überlebt- A Central Powers Victory Collaborative Timeline
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That would lead to a third, British/"Angloid" branch of *fascism. An interesting concept indeed as this branch could, e.g., have a party in the US and many other countries. Indeed it makes sense (maybe even seeing the British Empire as the "New Roman Empire" etc.?)
1922 election
1922 general election.
The 1919 had removed Lloyd George from government, as punishment for the loss of the war. Hence forth from 1920 to 1922 the prime minister was Bonar Law. He had not done a bad job, but he was hardly popular. The 1922 election was hence forth a three way fight between Labour, the conservatives and the pro-activists. Thanks to the loss of Northern Ireland there were 600 seats up for grabs.
Ex solders loyal to the proactivist had spent the past years involved in strike breaking, staged attacks on Labour Party campaign meetings.
Labour - 188
Conservative- 181
Proactivist - 170
Liberal - 57
Other - 4
Dispite labour being the largest party, they could be deafeted. As a result King Edward VIII negotiated a collation between to consveratives and the pro-activists. Binary law continued to be pm. However the home office was given to John Notingwood and Beatty was made first lord of the admiralty.
The 1919 had removed Lloyd George from government, as punishment for the loss of the war. Hence forth from 1920 to 1922 the prime minister was Bonar Law. He had not done a bad job, but he was hardly popular. The 1922 election was hence forth a three way fight between Labour, the conservatives and the pro-activists. Thanks to the loss of Northern Ireland there were 600 seats up for grabs.
Ex solders loyal to the proactivist had spent the past years involved in strike breaking, staged attacks on Labour Party campaign meetings.
Labour - 188
Conservative- 181
Proactivist - 170
Liberal - 57
Other - 4
Dispite labour being the largest party, they could be deafeted. As a result King Edward VIII negotiated a collation between to consveratives and the pro-activists. Binary law continued to be pm. However the home office was given to John Notingwood and Beatty was made first lord of the admiralty.
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After reading up on him... It could be much like in the popular TL: The Veterinarian Totalitarian! And a Leese dictatorship would probably be very, very brutal and horrible from the impression I got in Wikipedia.
EDIT: I thought that the TL was still running, but it was ended more than a year ago.
Also, to make clear how bad, how brutal, how potentially genocidal Arnold Leese was, a quote from Wikipedia:
Wikipedia said:
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Since we had 2 options on the poll tied, perhaps Leese should rule until the end of WW2, and then, there's a civil war, Scotland breaks off, but Britain remains Activist-Romanist, under someone else
I think we should hold the next poll on this topic, parallel with the Israel and Ireland ones.
Here, you have three new polls!
The situation of Britain:
https://strawpoll.com/e58f8yg9
Israel:
https://strawpoll.com/6f9g755y
Ireland:
https://strawpoll.com/hs4h9cfa
The situation of Britain:
https://strawpoll.com/e58f8yg9
Israel:
https://strawpoll.com/6f9g755y
Ireland:
https://strawpoll.com/hs4h9cfa
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I’m thinking a Fascist (?) Israel in the Far East, essentially created by the Rodzaevsky regime to keep Jews out of Russia, heavily controlled, survives after the fall of Moscow.
I like that idea. How about it started off as the OTL Jewish Autonomous Oblast, but as Russia collapsed, it expanded into Green Ukraine?
Of course, the poll must go on before a decision is reached
And two more polls. Mind that a majority for the same type of government in both Australias will be considered a vote for reunification.
West Australia:
https://strawpoll.com/yx7ffrzr
East Australia:
https://strawpoll.com/f4g84zp7
West Australia:
https://strawpoll.com/yx7ffrzr
East Australia:
https://strawpoll.com/f4g84zp7
Warlord China, 1921
Warlord China, 1921
(Basemap by @Admiral A. Kolchak)
China has been in a state of civil war since 1912, when the Qing Dynastywas overthrown, and a Republic was declared. Unfortunately, The new government suffered from infighting, corruption, and the odd coup. With the Republic's government unable to provide enforcement in many of the outer provinces, Warlords began to take over. Many European powers tried to intervene, especially during the great war, to create a strong, unified China, that was loyal to them. Most of these attempts failed. But Germany, in order to protect its holdings on the Shandong peninsula, brought the last surviving Qing emperor, a boy named Puyi, to China, and set up a cabal of German-friendly generals to run the Dynasty until the young Emperor came of age. Thus the Later Qing dynasty, or the Beijing Government, was formed. Soon the warlords scrambled to ally themselves with whichever government they thought would be the winning side.
This map shows the situation in 1921, as things have finally begun to stabilize in Europe. But the Chinese Civil War has only just begun...
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Nagaland: The Holy Kingdom
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Nagaland: The Holy Kingdom
In 1919, the British left most of India in the hands of local princes and revolutionaries. One of these revolutionaries was a young man named Haipou Jadonang [1].
Jadonang was from the Rongmei tribe of the Naga people, a tribe inhabiting the furthest reaches of the Indian subcontinent and parts of Burma. As a young farmer, he began to gain interest in religion, specifically the ancestral religion of the Nagas, becoming a soothsayer among his people. He also began to notice the rise of Christian and Hindu missionary movements, which he deemed foreign imperialism.
In 1917, the Kuki people, the Nagas’ historical rivals, successfully rose up against the British for a short one before their dismissal by the signators of the Delhi Conference in 1919, and their absorption into Manipur. In both this revolt and the Weltkrieg, Naga forces contributed greatly to the British war effort, and, after Britain’s surrender after George V’s assassination in 1919, formed the Naga Club to demand the emancipation of their people. Jadonang was influenced by the Naga club, and, a few years later [2], would form the Heraka movement[3], inspired by local traditions.
The Heraka religion combined both local beliefs and Abrahamic beliefs in a supreme power, known to Jadonang as Tingkao Ragwang, and placed little emphasis on superstition.
Other than religion, Jadonang was also focused on nationalism. He envisioned a large Naga state, known as the Makam Gwangdi, consisting of all Naga-speaking lands. He was to be its king.
With the British gone, Jadonang was practically the leader of Nagaland, and, by 1927, had established a large state, which was, while with little recognition, rather powerful.
The future, however, seems uncertain for Nagaland. Without much foreign support, it cannot grow, especially since it is practically isolated from the rest of India. With the Chinese civil war coming to a close, one wonders if Germany will look to Nagaland next.
[1]- Jadonang was a real person, and his ambitions too were real. Although in OTL he was hanged in 1931, with no British I figured he might have a better chance.
[2]- Again, a real club.
[3]- The Heraka (pure) movement used to be rather dominant in Nagaland, though it has since reduced in size due to the rise of Christianity in the region. It is not looked upon very kindly in Nagaland, due to the fact that many Hindu nationalists idolise it.
In 1919, the British left most of India in the hands of local princes and revolutionaries. One of these revolutionaries was a young man named Haipou Jadonang [1].
Jadonang was from the Rongmei tribe of the Naga people, a tribe inhabiting the furthest reaches of the Indian subcontinent and parts of Burma. As a young farmer, he began to gain interest in religion, specifically the ancestral religion of the Nagas, becoming a soothsayer among his people. He also began to notice the rise of Christian and Hindu missionary movements, which he deemed foreign imperialism.
In 1917, the Kuki people, the Nagas’ historical rivals, successfully rose up against the British for a short one before their dismissal by the signators of the Delhi Conference in 1919, and their absorption into Manipur. In both this revolt and the Weltkrieg, Naga forces contributed greatly to the British war effort, and, after Britain’s surrender after George V’s assassination in 1919, formed the Naga Club to demand the emancipation of their people. Jadonang was influenced by the Naga club, and, a few years later [2], would form the Heraka movement[3], inspired by local traditions.
The Heraka religion combined both local beliefs and Abrahamic beliefs in a supreme power, known to Jadonang as Tingkao Ragwang, and placed little emphasis on superstition.
Other than religion, Jadonang was also focused on nationalism. He envisioned a large Naga state, known as the Makam Gwangdi, consisting of all Naga-speaking lands. He was to be its king.
With the British gone, Jadonang was practically the leader of Nagaland, and, by 1927, had established a large state, which was, while with little recognition, rather powerful.
The future, however, seems uncertain for Nagaland. Without much foreign support, it cannot grow, especially since it is practically isolated from the rest of India. With the Chinese civil war coming to a close, one wonders if Germany will look to Nagaland next.
[1]- Jadonang was a real person, and his ambitions too were real. Although in OTL he was hanged in 1931, with no British I figured he might have a better chance.
[2]- Again, a real club.
[3]- The Heraka (pure) movement used to be rather dominant in Nagaland, though it has since reduced in size due to the rise of Christianity in the region. It is not looked upon very kindly in Nagaland, due to the fact that many Hindu nationalists idolise it.
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Are these all real people?Work in Progress!
German Empire
Deutsches Reich (German)
Tyske Rige (Danish)
Royaume Allemande (French)
Rzesza Niemicka (Polish)
Information, List of Heads of State and Government, History
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List of Heads of Government
Deutsches Kaiserreich
1909-1918: Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg (+)
1918-1935: Gustav Ritter von Kahr (DKP-DRP-Antisemiten coalition)
1917-1921 de facto: Erich Ludendorff (OHL - Oberste Heeresleitung)
Deutsches Reich (after the Zweite Verfassunggebende Versammlung - second constitutional convention):
1935-1950: Fritz Husemann (SPD-SAPD-VDP coalition)
1950-1956: Anton Kampschulte (Z-LVP-CSV coalition) (+)
1956-1960: Eduard Dingeldey (Z-LVP-CSV coalition)
1960-1965: Heinrich Krone (Z-CSV-NSB coalition)
1965-1975: Adolf Hauswald (SPD-VDP-SAPD coalition)
1975-1984: Adolf Hauswald (SPD-VDP-SAPD-NSB coalition)
1984-1999: Raoul Mangold (NLP-Z-CSV coalition)
1999-2004: Heiner Hammerschmidt (Z-NLP-CSV-NSB coalition)
2004-2012: Gregor Tanne (SAPD-SPD-UMS coalition)
2012-2017: Katrin Esser (NLP-VDP-Dänenpartei-Polen-Memelbund coalition)
2017-...: Adolf Strzelecki (NSB-UMS-PFF-Polen-Memelbund coalition)
No, and I don't think we should use a real person for everything. Some of them are real indeed, but especially the last chancellors are fictional.
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Shall we hold a poll on whether we should use real or fictional people in this TL?
The further we get from the POD, the more implausible it gets to use real persons in my opinion, @Hindustani Person . That is why I used real people for the first few chancellors only.
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