Alkahest
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I'm doing some historical research for some writing I'm doing, and I have a hard time telling the bullshit from the facts. This forum seems like a good place to get answers, so here's my question:
Who fought on the crusaders' side in the "Battle of the Ice", or the Battle of Lake Peipus, against the forces of Alexander Nevsky?
In some sources it seems like a mixed Teutonic/Livonian Order deal (yeah, I know, the "Sword Brethren" had by this point been incorporated into the Teutonic Knights, but they seem to have operated rather autonomously), while other sources seem to imply that there were few, if any, Teutonic Knights present, while other sources downplay the knights completely and portray it as a hodgepodge of Western land-grabbers led by the Prince-Bishop of Dorpat with only a few token knights present.
So, according to the best data modern historians have available to them, what was the case?
Edit: To be more specific about the reasons for my question, I'm looking for some spectacular battle where a Teutonic knight (voted "best dressers of the Middle Ages") can get killed in a cinematic fashion. Vague knowledge of a cool battle where armored hardasses fell through the ice popped up in my head and I wrote down "Battle of the Ice" in my notes, but when I did some more research it seemed like a lot of the legends around that battle might just be myths cooked up by Russian patriots.
Who fought on the crusaders' side in the "Battle of the Ice", or the Battle of Lake Peipus, against the forces of Alexander Nevsky?
In some sources it seems like a mixed Teutonic/Livonian Order deal (yeah, I know, the "Sword Brethren" had by this point been incorporated into the Teutonic Knights, but they seem to have operated rather autonomously), while other sources seem to imply that there were few, if any, Teutonic Knights present, while other sources downplay the knights completely and portray it as a hodgepodge of Western land-grabbers led by the Prince-Bishop of Dorpat with only a few token knights present.
So, according to the best data modern historians have available to them, what was the case?
Edit: To be more specific about the reasons for my question, I'm looking for some spectacular battle where a Teutonic knight (voted "best dressers of the Middle Ages") can get killed in a cinematic fashion. Vague knowledge of a cool battle where armored hardasses fell through the ice popped up in my head and I wrote down "Battle of the Ice" in my notes, but when I did some more research it seemed like a lot of the legends around that battle might just be myths cooked up by Russian patriots.
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