Dewey defeats Truman

The Chicago Tribune's Headline on Election Day 1948!

Thomas Dewey is elected as our 34th president of the United States and California Governor Earl Warren is our next vice president.

Now I have a few questions.
Assuming that Dewey and Warren serve 8 years (1949-1957) as president and vice president, who most likely becomes the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court when Chief Justice Fred Vinson dies in the fall of 1953?
Who would President Dewey most likely select for that position?

Also, is there the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963 in this time line which would bring about a report headed by the Chief Justice at that time?

If Dewey leaves office in January 1957, who would the nominees be in 1956 for the democratic and republican tickets? Who would follow Dewey as the 35th president of the United States?

Any comments?
 
I don't think Dewey is reelected in 1952. tThere is the Korean quigmire and communists in government. If you are elected President of the United States in 1856,1892, 1928, 1948, 1972, 1976 or 1988, you are going to have a tough time winning reelection.
 
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I don't think Dewey is reelected in 1952. tThere is the Korean quigmire and communists in government. If you are elected President of the United States in 1856,1892, 1928, 1948, 1972, 1976 or 1988, you are going to have a tough time winning reelection.
Thank you Paul for responding.
So with Dewey losing re-election in 1952, does he and Warren lose to Adlai Stevenson and John Sparkman of Alabama, seeing that was the democratic ticket in '52?
And could Stevenson win re-election in 1956?
In this time line, where would Nixon and Kennedy eventually end up?
Thanks again.
 
The Democrats could've had a number of candidates. Truman is a possibility if he still wins the popular vote. Douglas MacArthur might take the Republican nomination from Dewey.

Dewey will appoint J. Edgar Hoover to the Supreme Court, as promised.
 
Thank you Paul for responding.
So with Dewey losing re-election in 1952, does he and Warren lose to Adlai Stevenson and John Sparkman of Alabama, seeing that was the democratic ticket in '52?
And could Stevenson win re-election in 1956?
In this time line, where would Nixon and Kennedy eventually end up?
Thanks again.
With the booming economy, Stevenson would be reelected in 1956. I think Northern Democrats would oppose Sparkman, so Kennedy or some other candidate could win the 1960. bBy 1960, Senator Nixon could be prominent enough to win the nomination. sSo it could be Kennedy vs Nixon in 1960.
 

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I don't think Dewey is reelected in 1952. tThere is the Korean quigmire and communists in government. If you are elected President of the United States in 1856,1892, 1928, 1948, 1972, 1976 or 1988, you are going to have a tough time winning reelection.

This seems to be a silly view on several levels.

1- There is plenty of leeway to avoid the "quigmire" in Korea.

2- The Democrats arn't going to have an easy time running their own brand of McCarthyism when Dewey isn't having agencies run by the Marxists who became New Dealers crowd

3- 2012 certainly showed that you can't treat "Bad Economy = Defeated Incumbent"
 
This seems to be a silly view on several levels.

1- There is plenty of leeway to avoid the "quigmire" in Korea.

2- The Democrats arn't going to have an easy time running their own brand of McCarthyism when Dewey isn't having agencies run by the Marxists who became New Dealers crowd

3- 2012 certainly showed that you can't treat "Bad Economy = Defeated Incumbent"
1 - There is, but it usually involves nuclear weapons.

2 - McCarthyism did not depend on facts, but feeling. I'm pretty sure some Democrat that can demagogue the issue will turn up. Still, without Nixon's Alger Hiss case, HUAC is going to look like a bunch of incompetents (because they were, besides Nixon).

3 - No, it doesn't, but Obama's approval ratings weren't in the 20s in 2012.
 

Japhy

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1 - There is, but it usually involves nuclear weapons.

Or the Soviets not walking out of the UN over China so they can veto the Forces Sent, Or stopping at the 48th Parallel or "Best Defensible Line" (Which was always planned on being to the north)

2 - McCarthyism did not depend on facts, but feeling. I'm pretty sure some Democrat that can demagogue the issue will turn up. Still, without Nixon's Alger Hiss case, HUAC is going to look like a bunch of incompetents (because they were, besides Nixon).

True on the first part, definitely true on the second. The issue being that one can't treat the rise of McCarthyism as an inevitable force, no matter how much Paul likes to always think they are.

3 - No, it doesn't, but Obama's approval ratings weren't in the 20s in 2012.

Yeah it does, unless Mitt Romney won in the bad economy and I missed it. But yes, you're right, Obama did not have Truman numbers. Neither did most of the incumbents that Paul assumes are always doomed no matter what.
 
Thank you Paul for responding.
So with Dewey losing re-election in 1952, does he and Warren lose to Adlai Stevenson and John Sparkman of Alabama, seeing that was the democratic ticket in '52?

As another thread queried- What about Eisenhower as a Democrat in '52?

And could Stevenson win re-election in 1956?
In this time line, where would Nixon and Kennedy eventually end up?
Thanks again.

When Ike runs for reelection in 56 he picks a young Senator from Boston as his VP. JFK then runs on his own in 1960 against Nixon who makes a name for himself after investigating why Ike allowed the Commies to take Berlin.
 
Ike wanted to be President. The only way he becomes President would to run as a democrat. The day Dewey wins, every important Democrat in America is wooing Eisenhower. FDR's kids wanted him to run against Truman in 48. Get Eleanor on board and its bye bye Dewey. Since Ike is a bit more conservative than your average New dealer he picks a liberal to run with him. Would not be surprised if he picked Stevenson. So you see Stevenson and LBJ running against Rockfeller and Goldwalter in 60.
 
The first vacancy would be when Frank Murphy dies in July 1949, so Hoover wouldn't be Chief. Other than that no idea.

2. JFK probably doesn't become POTUS here. It was really '60 or bust for him, and there are plenty of health (dies in '55) or political (loses in '52) butterflies which could end his career or life.

3. The OTL '56 crowd will still be there for the Dems. Possibly with the addition of Scott Lucas, since without K1C2 or at least K1C2 at OTL tempo he has a much better shot of hanging on in '50. For the Republicans Nixon, Knowland and Warren, unless Rocky runs for Senate or Governor earlier than OTL.

4. Problem was that Ike was always a Republican and hated the Dems. Not just to Truman or in public but in private letters to his closest confidants he expressed that view.
 
Ike wanted to be President. The only way he becomes President would to run as a democrat. The day Dewey wins, every important Democrat in America is wooing Eisenhower. FDR's kids wanted him to run against Truman in 48. Get Eleanor on board and its bye bye Dewey. Since Ike is a bit more conservative than your average New dealer he picks a liberal to run with him. Would not be surprised if he picked Stevenson. So you see Stevenson and LBJ running against Rockfeller and Goldwalter in 60.
Seeing that I started this thread, I would like to put my thoughts down on what you all have added. I even read the thread on "Could Eisenhower win as a democrat?" Thank you all for your inputs.

Dewey wins in 1948, ending 16 consecutive years of the White House in democratic hands. However, he loses re-election in 1952 to General Dwight Eisenhower, the DEMOCRATIC nominee. Eisenhower and Adlai Stevenson, the new vice president, begin their term on January 20, 1953.
Both are re-elected in 1956.
SO MY QUESTION IS: Can the Democratic Party win again in 1960 after being in the White House for 24 of the last 28 years?
Although Stevenson and LBJ are mentioned as running together in 1960 against Rockefeller and Goldwater, where would John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon end up in this timeline of Eisenhower serving two terms as a DEMOCRAT?

Any comments? Thanks.
 
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