Desire the Right: the world of Patagonia

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  1. Hindustani Person We live in a society :(

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    How does China’s government work? I assume it is influenced somewhat by Liang Qichao.
     
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    China uses the Westminster system under a constitutional monarchy known as the Fong dynasty, which was established following the Ninth Opium War when a (fictional) Qing government minister named Fong Yan led an internal coup against the young Emperor Puyi in the early 1920s. The Fong dynasty borrows a lot from the British, due to Fong Yan subscribing to the philosophy of "if you can't beat them, emulate them because they gotta be doing something right". The stuff they borrowed included the Westminster system, the British system of peerages (hence why Mao Zedong is the "Marquess of Hunan"), the system of calling monarchs by their given names followed by a regnal number (as opposed to the traditional Chinese regnal name system), as well as a lot of the general Victorian aesthetic (even though Queen Victoria had been dead for over 20 years at that point)

    I had never heard of him before you mentioned him, but now that you mention him I'll make him the first Chancellor of the Fong dynasty, having also been granted the title of the "Duke of Canton" by Emperor Yan I
     
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  3. Hindustani Person We live in a society :(

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    Another suggestion could be making the emperor, rather than a fictional character, one of the Dukes Yansheng (descendants of Confucius)
     
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    I've already established Fong Yan becomes Emperor in my Mao infobox, as well as Fong Yan's existence in the Ninth Opium War infobox, and if I do include a Duke Yansheng then it'll be the same as the OTL current Sacrificial Official to Confucius. But thanks for the suggestions! Your suggestions have helped me understand more about China so now I can worldbuild it better
     
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  5. Threadmarks: Benedict Arnold

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    Sir Benedict Arnold, one of the founding fathers of the Patagonian province of New Monmouthshire (then separated into the predominantly English Desire Colony and the predominantly Welsh Carnarvon Colony), who also served as governor of the Desire Colony

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    I just de-threadmarked a few posts because I'm gonna rework the US a bit
     
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  7. Threadmarks: Third Spanish Civil War

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    I decided to retcon what I had planned for Spain as well, so here's the Third Spanish Civil War

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  8. Twiggierjet Well-Known Member

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    Democratic socialist kingdom? Is that left-wing carlism I see?
     
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    Yep, exactly!

    It was a weird compromise between the PCE and the already market socialist leaning King Carlos that led to this. Naturally it didn't last, and eventually King Carlos attempted to institute a liberal democratic constitution while the PCE was already conspiring to depose him, so a civil war happened. The Carlists won it and Spain became a democratic constitutional monarchy, although the left has still dominated its politics ever since
     
  10. Hindustani Person We live in a society :(

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    Yay!
     
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    Actually I retconned that and several other things in the post you quoted, namely absolutist Spain. I realized removing Belgium wouldn't make sense without butterflying the rest of everything between 1830 and 1848 which I didn't wanna deal with
     
  12. Threadmarks: Commonwealth of Darien

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  13. naraht Well-Known Member

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    Don't know what's wierdest, the same person having five offices, the fact that a continental European state drives on the left orthe fact that a relatively small European state is on a half time zone
     
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  14. naraht Well-Known Member

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    Also for the Republic of Darien and "New Kedleston". Does anyone know what the smallest location in the UK is iOTL to have a "New something" elsewhere in the world? (Kedleston has less than 100 people)
     
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    Well literally all of that can be explained by the fact that TTL's Yugoslavia is a clerical fascist hermit kingdom

    Well I named New Kedleston not after the actual place of Kedleston, but instead after TTL's British Prime Minister at the time of the British annexation of Panama/Darien, a certain somebody you may have heard of named Lord Curzon, whose title was the Lord Curzon of Kedleston at the time as he was born in Kedleston

    Also, it's the Commonwealth* of Darien. It's still under the British monarchy so it's most certainly not a republic
     
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  16. naraht Well-Known Member

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    Switching the side of the road to drive on in order to contribute to being a hermit? OK... (AustroHungary I believe had right side driving everywhere, so they deliberately switched). Right Commonwealth of Darien...

    Now if you could just have the Military Academy for the Commonwealth of Darien named after Ellen Mary Paraman, that would be perfect. :)
     
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    As and Spaniard, left-wing Carlism is the most bizarre thing I can think of, if it didn't exist IOTL it would be difficult to explain it even with ASBs. It is cool, though.
     
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    I'll take that as a compliment
     
  20. Twiggierjet Well-Known Member

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    Real life is the most ASB setting of them all.
     
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