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Stjepan Radic, the leader of the Croat Peasants' Party (an agrarian party that was the largest Croat party at the time and perenially in opposition because the government was never formed with Croat parties) was assassinated. In Parliament. By a fellow member of parliament belonging to the pro-Serb parties.

The man responsible, Punisa Racic, was convicted to 60 years in prison. The sentence got immediately reduced to 20 years and he was sent to serve it under house arrest, not even jail.

The next year, 1929, the Vidovdan Constituion entered into force, effectively abolishing democracy in favour of a royal dictatorship. The nation also changed its name to Yugoslavia (it had officially been the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes).

Suffice to say there was a great deal of dissatisfaction. To the point where the aforementioned Croatian Peasants' Party formed its own militias.
in almost every TL, the only way to make Yugoslavia to actually work, is to have Bulgaria be part of it, since it can counter balance Serbia in terms of population. But in almost every TL written or mentioned until now Bulgarians don't want to be part of it, they only want Santo Stefano to be enforced.
Maybe if the Slovene identity never formed and they went up as Croatians, then maybe you can have the balance
 
Very interesting timeline, I’m enjoying the story telling and am eagerly anticipating the eventual butterfly effects of this preparation.

Apart from a less Slavaphobic structured racial hierarchy, does Social Nationalism differ from Nazism in any other ways? Does the German Worker’s Party end up styling themselves as SocNats as well? And I’m wondering if the SocNats come in conflict with the Austro-Fascists, you mention briefly Hitler having something to do with the Fatherland Front but I’d be very interested in seeing how he deals with the more moderate and monarchists factions. Very excited for the coming chapters! And congratulations on your marriage C:
 
Suffice to say there was a great deal of dissatisfaction. To the point where the aforementioned Croatian Peasants' Party formed its own militias.
Thank you for reminding me, I completely forgot about HSS paramilitary formations. I believe that it, by '41, numbered some 200k members, divided into two distinct groups.

The larger one was the HSZ (Croatian Peasant Protection), also known as Batinaši-Clubmen, since they were generally armed with clubs, and their main task was to protect rural areas of Croatia against Serbian dominated Gendarmerie and radicals. However, as the '30ies went on, they were slowly being armed, trained and organized, becoming a much more professional force, then mere mob.

Second, smaller group was HGZ (Croatian Citizen Protection) which was a much more formidable force. It numbered only some 4 thousand, but was actually set up as an actual armed formation. By '41, it is organized into 4 Infantry Battalions, Cavalry Company and a Motorized Infantry Company.

The hope of HSS leadership at the time was that HGSZ would in time become a core of distinct national military, a Croatian Homeguard, paving the way for further autonomy and in the end independance. Unfortunately, all it did was to create a large number of young men, trained, armed and radicalised, half of which went on to serve in armed formations of Independent State of Croatia during WW2.
 
in almost every TL, the only way to make Yugoslavia to actually work, is to have Bulgaria be part of it, since it can counter balance Serbia in terms of population. But in almost every TL written or mentioned until now Bulgarians don't want to be part of it, they only want Santo Stefano to be enforced.
Maybe if the Slovene identity never formed and they went up as Croatians, then maybe you can have the balance

Yugoslavia will be invaded and divided during the war. Yugoslavia is to Der Kampf Hitler what Poland was to OTL Hitler.

Very interesting timeline, I’m enjoying the story telling and am eagerly anticipating the eventual butterfly effects of this preparation.

Apart from a less Slavaphobic structured racial hierarchy, does Social Nationalism differ from Nazism in any other ways? Does the German Worker’s Party end up styling themselves as SocNats as well? And I’m wondering if the SocNats come in conflict with the Austro-Fascists, you mention briefly Hitler having something to do with the Fatherland Front but I’d be very interested in seeing how he deals with the more moderate and monarchists factions. Very excited for the coming chapters! And congratulations on your marriage C:

Thank you! Glad you are enjoying it. We just moved into our house two days ago so busy with moving in, and the wedding is coming up. Busy, busy!

I'm still working on how to differentiate Social Nationalism from National Socialism. It will be pro-Catholic, with much of the Party's propaganda and members spouting pro-Catholic policies. Though Hitler himself will be agnostic/atheist as per OTL, he will be more careful with the Church and will use it as a means to secure support and loyalty. His mission to "liberate" Europe is a Holy Crusade against Jews, Communists and other threats, which the Ministry of Propaganda will spout frequently. Social Nationalism will be a corporatist ideology like Italian Fascism.

Any suggestions to differentiate but still show a Fascist/Nazi-like leaning is more than welcome.

The German Workers' Party, both the Austrian and German ones, will play a role in the story with varying degrees of importance and impact.

Social Nationalists will fight with, ally with, and merge with various Austrofascist groups. The 1920s and early 1930s will be Hitler and his Party rising and falling with what I hope are some cool ideas that I have planned. I even have two story arcs planned during the 1920s that I think y'all (the readers) would find interesting.

I will say the Fatherland Front does come into play, but aside from being led by Dollfuss and having the same name it will be quite different in structure, leadership, and how it develops.

Hitler can work with right-leaning or right-sympathetic moderates and monarchists, though he privately despises the Hapsburgs he will give some lip service if it gives him even a modicum of support.


Thank you for reminding me, I completely forgot about HSS paramilitary formations. I believe that it, by '41, numbered some 200k members, divided into two distinct groups.

The larger one was the HSZ (Croatian Peasant Protection), also known as Batinaši-Clubmen, since they were generally armed with clubs, and their main task was to protect rural areas of Croatia against Serbian dominated Gendarmerie and radicals. However, as the '30ies went on, they were slowly being armed, trained and organized, becoming a much more professional force, then mere mob.

Second, smaller group was HGZ (Croatian Citizen Protection) which was a much more formidable force. It numbered only some 4 thousand, but was actually set up as an actual armed formation. By '41, it is organized into 4 Infantry Battalions, Cavalry Company and a Motorized Infantry Company.

The hope of HSS leadership at the time was that HGSZ would in time become a core of distinct national military, a Croatian Homeguard, paving the way for further autonomy and in the end independance. Unfortunately, all it did was to create a large number of young men, trained, armed and radicalised, half of which went on to serve in armed formations of Independent State of Croatia during WW2.

Ahhh, interesting. Will be researching Yugoslavia more in depth once the 1920s roll around. Many things will happen as OTL, such as Radic's assassination, but who knows, maybe butterflies avert that. Will have to see how the story plays out
 
Chapter Eight
Chapter Eight
Burdens of War
October 1916
Romanian Front, Transylvania
Austro-Hungarian Empire
Rain pattered down against the trees, and dripped down along branches and leaves. The sky was as gray as a German uniform, the atmosphere cold and wet like a Russian rainstorm.

Lieutenant Tamás Horváth took a deep drag on his cigarette before exhaling. He was tired, so very tired. Ever since the Romanians had joined the Entente, his division and several others, both German and Austro-Hungarian, had been transferred southeast from fighting the Russians to combat this new threat.

Weeks of fighting followed, with Austro-Hungarian, German and Bulgarian forces pushed to the brink but eventually the frontline had stabilized and the Romanians pushed back in several places.

An ache behind his eyes, a tired born of weariness of the soul, gave him a haunting look. Walking through his platoon’s encampment, he nodded at his men, those absent a painful reminder of the cost of war.

He did his duty as an Imperial officer, bolstering their spirits as best he could, but he was going through the motions more than fervently believing the hollow words he spoke.

Reaching an officers’ tent, he sat on the small stump of stool, stretched and yawned. The other Common Army officers in the tent all looked similarly tired. Most were Czechs yet they primarily spoke German to the handful of Hungarian, Croatian, and Ruthenian among them, albeit with a significant amount of loan words and ersatz grammar.

One Czech in particular, a Captain Černý, was notably in a foul mood, something that had been common as of late. Horváth had heard that he had lost most of his company in a needless assault several days earlier on an unimportant Romanian position, the medics having to drag the near comatose Czech commander as he had fallen to his knees after the battle, disturbed by the death toll, blood and dirt matting his body, hair and uniform.

“Fuck the Germans,” he muttered. That drew the eyes and frowns of several officers but not many. The Germans were useful allies, many appreciating their contribution and experience though it did come bundled with arrogance and pride.

“Fuck the Slovaks,” he muttered, the Czech enmity to their eastern neighbor well known throughout the Empire.

“Fuck the Austrians and fuck those damn fools in Vienna,” Černý muttered, almost in resign. “We’re killing children out here now. All for a damn emperor no one likes.”

Two officers, a Hungarian and fellow Czech, rose and departed, their anger at the words radiating off them like a furnace. It was luck that a weapon had not been drawn or a fist raised for a scuffle.

“You shouldn't have said that,” Horváth whispered quietly, the room having grown still and awkward.

Černý pulled out a pack of cigarettes, taking one and offering the pack to Horváth who accepted it. The Czech put the thin paper, filled with cheap tobacco, in his mouth and lit it with a match, handing anyone who wanted a match to light their own cigarettes.

“And I shouldn’t have had to shoot children merely because they yell slurs at us.” A deep sadness resided in Černý’s gaze. “We have become the monsters they fear us to be.”
Horváth said nothing, for there was nothing to say but to finish his cigarette and find an excuse to leave the tent and the treason within.

Two days later the military police, the Gendarmerie, arrived yet when they opened the flaps to Černý’s tent they found the man’s wrists slit and a bloodstained letter clutched in his hand, addressed to his wife and children. Some murmured he had been murdered by the Austrians, or by one of the few Germans in the Imperial encampment, but most accepted the official announcement of suicide.

Horváth didn’t care whether it was suicide or murder. He only hoped it had been quick.

To distract himself and the heightened emotions in the camp, he trained his men relentlessly, performing physical exercise to keep the mind and body sharp, spending many hours at the practice range to increase accuracy, reloading and coordination.

The intensive training ironically took his mind off of the war despite that he was improving his platoon in the art of it. Yet the realities of the Great War came for him when he and a squadron of soldiers were chosen by an Austrian major to execute “guerilla fighters and seditious elements.”

These guerilla fighters turned out to be six Romanian soldiers, four old men, two women, three boys and a man who wore a dirtied Common Army uniform with his insignia ripped off or defaced. It was the former Austro-Hungarian soldier who stared at them with the most fiery of hate.

He yelled in Romanian, of which Horváth knew little of, but recognized the words to be “Death to the Hapsburgs, long live Romania!” The Romanian Army soldiers echoed the statement, as did the civilians with various degrees of defiance. One of the small boys began to cry, causing the woman next to him to grab his hand to lend bravery.

Horváth ordered the three squads of soldiers to line up in a straight line like the armies of old with their weapon shouldered, each given a single round to fire. A single blank round was randomly doled out to help comfort the soldiers in thinking their bullet was the one that wouldn’t kill. It was an illusion to ease the reality of what they were doing.

“Load,” he said, breath fogging in the air, his officer’s pistol pulled from its holster to shoot any who survived.

The sound of sliding bolts, rounds being loaded, and the bolts slammed forward echoed for a moment. The world seemed still, it seemed to watch.

“Aim,” his men did so, many stone faced, others resigned, while one looked like he was going to be sick, rifle shaking slightly.

“Fire.” Thirty rifles bucked as they shot and fifteen of the targets fell. Only one stood, the little boy who cried.

Horváth felt his stomach drop and blood freeze as he forced himself to walk over to the small boy, the bullet that had been aimed at him missing when the dead woman holding his hand pulled him out of the way as she died, the bullet missing by a hair and impacting the wall behind them.

Raising his pistol at the so-called saboteur and seeing not anger or defiance but sheer abject fear in those watery eyes made him think of Černý’s words: ‘We have become the monsters they fear us to be.’

Sorrow lined his voice as he raised his pistol.

“I’m sorry.”

The pistol kicked as it fired, the shell casing falling to the ground synchronously with the tears of a soldier who knew that he had become a monster.
 
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Stjepan Radic, the leader of the Croat Peasants' Party (an agrarian party that was the largest Croat party at the time and perenially in opposition because the government was never formed with Croat parties) was assassinated. In Parliament. By a fellow member of parliament belonging to the pro-Serb parties.

The man responsible, Punisa Racic, was convicted to 60 years in prison. The sentence got immediately reduced to 20 years and he was sent to serve it under house arrest, not even jail.

The next year, 1929, the Vidovdan Constituion entered into force, effectively abolishing democracy in favour of a royal dictatorship. The nation also changed its name to Yugoslavia (it had officially been the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes).

Suffice to say there was a great deal of dissatisfaction. To the point where the aforementioned Croatian Peasants' Party formed its own militias.
Ah! Thank you, this will definitely help me with fleshing out some things.
Hitler leading the Social Nationalist Movement won’t change Radic’s assassination unless something truly crazy happens, but Radic dying and the deteriorating Croat-Serb relationship is just too rich for story potential to discard but having an alive Radic could also spice things up.
 

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Yugoslavia will be invaded and divided during the war. Yugoslavia is to Der Kampf Hitler what Poland was to OTL Hitler.

partition with who? Bulgaria?
instead of the molotov ribbentrop we go for the wolf-popov[1] pact? XD

[1] based on wiki, bulgarian foreign minister until 1940 was Ivan Popov, while Austria's last Foreign minister before anschluss was Wilhelm Wolf(nazi)
 
partition with who? Bulgaria?
instead of the molotov ribbentrop we go for the wolf-popov[1] pact? XD

[1] based on wiki, bulgarian foreign minister until 1940 was Ivan Popov, while Austria's last Foreign minister before anschluss was Wilhelm Wolf(nazi)
Divided doesn't necessarily mean partitioned; it could be broken up into a number of successor states. I suppose it is up to the author how far the analogy is carried.
 

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Divided doesn't necessarily mean partitioned; it could be broken up into a number of successor states. I suppose it is up to the author how far the analogy is carried.
well we have to consider all of this claims:
- dalmatia and montenegro for italy.
-Macedonia and Pirot for Bulgaria
-Vojvodina hungary
-Slovenia Austria.

if all the claims are given, we have croatia,bosnia and serbia left in the kingdom. most likely splitted with their own collaborationist governments
 
Something tells me that unlike OTL Hitler and Bandera will get along really well given Austrian Hungary’s traditional habit of supporting Ukrainian nationalism and a Hitler less interested in “Lebensraum” will just love to put a fellow fascist in power (the UPA uniforms are even based off of Austro Hungarian ones)

Edit: It may make sense given likely whether Italy is allied with Hitler is unlikely and Germany is far from assured this Hitler will exploit anti soviet nationalism of different kind, though preferring them to be under his "direction."

I mean the soviets have build up industry there and many of the soviet republics are able to function as independent entities. He could really play up the "anti communism" crusade in all honesty.

Bulgaria could be a strong ally.

Turanism is also something Hitler could try and support, and nationalism among Circassians, perhaps finding a ally inside Turkey though this.

In terms of developing an indigenous military industry, ironically i could see Austria initially marshaling french help for it, given France may initially see it as a "deterrent" against Germany


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Yugoslavia will be invaded and divided during the war. Yugoslavia is to Der Kampf Hitler what Poland was to OTL Hitler.



Thank you! Glad you are enjoying it. We just moved into our house two days ago so busy with moving in, and the wedding is coming up. Busy, busy!

I'm still working on how to differentiate Social Nationalism from National Socialism. It will be pro-Catholic, with much of the Party's propaganda and members spouting pro-Catholic policies. Though Hitler himself will be agnostic/atheist as per OTL, he will be more careful with the Church and will use it as a means to secure support and loyalty. His mission to "liberate" Europe is a Holy Crusade against Jews, Communists and other threats, which the Ministry of Propaganda will spout frequently. Social Nationalism will be a corporatist ideology like Italian Fascism.

Any suggestions to differentiate but still show a Fascist/Nazi-like leaning is more than welcome.

The German Workers' Party, both the Austrian and German ones, will play a role in the story with varying degrees of importance and impact.

Social Nationalists will fight with, ally with, and merge with various Austrofascist groups. The 1920s and early 1930s will be Hitler and his Party rising and falling with what I hope are some cool ideas that I have planned. I even have two story arcs planned during the 1920s that I think y'all (the readers) would find interesting.

I will say the Fatherland Front does come into play, but aside from being led by Dollfuss and having the same name it will be quite different in structure, leadership, and how it develops.

Hitler can work with right-leaning or right-sympathetic moderates and monarchists, though he privately despises the Hapsburgs he will give some lip service if it gives him even a modicum of support.




Ahhh, interesting. Will be researching Yugoslavia more in depth once the 1920s roll around. Many things will happen as OTL, such as Radic's assassination, but who knows, maybe butterflies avert that. Will have to see how the story plays out
Will the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP) ever take over Germany? Who will even be the Fuhrer there with Hitler staying in Austria and leading the Osterreicher Sozialnationalistische Partei (OSNP). My guess is that they will have an alliance and fight in World War II or at least the alternate equivalent of that conflict. Yugoslavia might be invaded by Sozinat Austria and divided into territories administered by Austrian Germans and no puppet states not even with collaborators similar to Poland/"General Government" however given the existing ethnic divisions as well as nationalist movements such as the Ustasha and Zbor in Yugoslavia they might go the opposite route instead.

Social Nationalism or Sozinatism by Adolf Hitler of Austria in TTL basically resembles Rexism by Leon Degrelle of Belgium and Legionarism by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu of Romania. The ideology basically combines fascism, anti-Semitism and a warped version of Christianity together.
 
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partition with who? Bulgaria?
instead of the molotov ribbentrop we go for the wolf-popov[1] pact? XD

[1] based on wiki, bulgarian foreign minister until 1940 was Ivan Popov, while Austria's last Foreign minister before anschluss was Wilhelm Wolf(nazi)

Wilhelm Wolf will have a role to play. He is my placeholder Foreign Minister in Hitler's Cabinet, but that is subject to change depending on how the story develops. He may be replaced by a historical character, or perhaps a fictional one.

Divided doesn't necessarily mean partitioned; it could be broken up into a number of successor states. I suppose it is up to the author how far the analogy is carried.

Parts of Yugoslavia will be annexed by Der Kampf's Axis Powers, but most will be client states/occupied territory.

well we have to consider all of this claims:
- dalmatia and montenegro for italy.
-Macedonia and Pirot for Bulgaria
-Vojvodina hungary
-Slovenia Austria.

if all the claims are given, we have croatia,bosnia and serbia left in the kingdom. most likely splitted with their own collaborationist governments
Largely correct for what will happen as of now (subject to change as the story progresses)

Something tells me that unlike OTL Hitler and Bandera will get along really well given Austrian Hungary’s traditional habit of supporting Ukrainian nationalism and a Hitler less interested in “Lebensraum” will just love to put a fellow fascist in power (the UPA uniforms are even based off of Austro Hungarian ones)

Edit: It may make sense given likely whether Italy is allied with Hitler is unlikely and Germany is far from assured this Hitler will exploit anti soviet nationalism of different kind, though preferring them to be under his "direction."

I mean the soviets have build up industry there and many of the soviet republics are able to function as independent entities. He could really play up the "anti communism" crusade in all honesty.

Bulgaria could be a strong ally.

Turanism is also something Hitler could try and support, and nationalism among Circassians, perhaps finding a ally inside Turkey though this.

In terms of developing an indigenous military industry, ironically i could see Austria initially marshaling french help for it, given France may initially see it as a "deterrent" against Germany


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Hitler's Austria will not be annexing territories left and right like the Germans did OTL, nor set up Reich Commissariats. Der Kampf Hitler will prefer puppet/client states that have a Fascist/Social Nationalist government. Hitler here will annex some territory directly into Austria, establish several "protectorates" that are for all intents and purposes extensions of Austria as Hitler will control their military and foreign policy but won't be ruled directly/openly by the Social Nationalists.

So Hitler and various nationalistic/fascist leaders, whether they be German, Slavic, Magyar, whatever, as long as they acknowledge Austria's preeminence and work to topple Judeo-Bolshevism then it is likely he would support them. Now he does have to play realpolitik here and there, sacrificing small pawns for the larger game.

France will do many things to slow down or stop potential German aggression as they are a more immediate threat then Austria. Whether that means allying or tentatively supporting Fascist Austria... that remains to be seen.

Those uniforms look great!

The Austrian Army, the Volksheer (Volkswehr is the combined military) will being use the pike gray color in their uniforms. It is a blue gray.

The SS-equivalent will wear a faded charcoal gray and the Waffen-SS equivalent will wear a darker version of pike gray.


@Tanner151 Ouch, that last chapter was brutal.

Indeed. There will be many tough chapters throughout the story, including when we get to WW2.

Gregor Strasser or Hermann Goering?

Remains to be seen. Many far-right players in Germany during the 20s and 30s.
 
Huh if i remember correctly from my books, the Czechs liked old Franz Joseph and he was 'Papa Franz' for them. It was only in late 1917 that the Czechs started to get disenfrachised right?
 
Huh if i remember correctly from my books, the Czechs liked old Franz Joseph and he was 'Papa Franz' for them. It was only in late 1917 that the Czechs started to get disenfrachised right?
It’s mainly because he is an officer of a unit that got massacred, the A-H military has suffered humiliating defeats and costly victories, and he is demoralized and jaded by the war.

While not outright defeatist, he is suffering from PTSD/shell shock, demoralized and depressed. Definitely not a good combo.

And there was a Czech officer who stormed out in disgust due to Cerny’s attitude and words, showing that at least that officer was loyal to Kaiser and Empire.

Also @Ficboy
The official name of Hitler’s Party and eventually the political party of Austria is very close to what you had.

The official name is the Austrian Social Nationalist People’s Party, Österreichische Sozialnationalistische Volkspartei (ÖSNVP, with its members called Social Nationalists or Sozinats as non-Party members call them).

Also the German Workers’ Party (DAP) will feature but their importance has changed as I have been worldbuilding. How important they are right now in my planning could change drastically as we progress the story. There are moments and events that will happen as they are things I’ve envisioned from the beginning but I’m being flexible on most things so I can be adaptable and have a more natural story progression.
 
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It’s mainly because he is an officer of a unit that got massacred, the A-H military has suffered humiliating defeats and costly victories, and he is demoralized and jaded by the war.

While not outright defeatist, he is suffering from PTSD/shell shock, demoralized and depressed. Seinfeld not a good combo.

And there was a Czech officer who stormed out in disgust due to Cerny’s attitude and words, showing that at least that officer was loyal to Kaiser and Empire.

Also @Ficboy
The official name of Hitler’s Party and eventually The political party of Austria Is very close to what you had.

The official name is: Austrian Social Nationalist People’s Party, Österreichische Sozialnationalistische Volkspartei (ÖSNVP, with its members called Social Nationalists or Sozinats as non-Party members call them).

Also the German Workers’ Party (DAP) will feature but their importance has changed as I have been worldbuilding. How important they are right now in my planning could change drastically as we progress the story. There are moments and events that will happen as they are things I’ve envisioned from the beginning but I’m being flexible on most things so I can be adaptable and have a more natural story progression.
My guess is that Gregor Strasser for instance takes over German Workers Party and becomes Fuhrer of Germany similar to Adolf Hitler.
 
I wonder what role Alfred Hugenberg and the DNVP will play, as well as the SDP and the KPD. Any plans for them?
 
Pic snip.

Looks like Boxer Rebellion Uniforms. Though the guy on the left looks positively Russian, what with the Shoulder Boards and the hat.

Sadly, I doubt we will see army using the white uniforms, no matter how spiffing they might look. Though, for Honor Guards and such, to relate to the history of Austrian army wearing uniforms in previous centuries, it might be possible.

Most likely we are talking about Field Grey or Khaki, as was worn IOTL by Austrian and Hungarian Army respectively, after WW1. Pike Grey has been seen as inadequate during WW1, and they did start to use Field Grey during the war, but I do think that Khaki may be more likely, since it might be important politically to be seen as distinct from Germany, and because A-H did consider/test the Khaki uniforms, but was unable/unwilling to adopt them.
 
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