Den Xiaoping not gains the power timeline

Iñaki

First of all thanks a lot to Mishery by the idea.

This timeline began in the thread of Mishery only as a little timeline to answer his question.

But well it develops an develops (and I am thinking even to make maps), so I prefer to make an own thread.

I am newbie and my knwoledge about soviet and chinese history is relative, so all the comments, questions, critics, suggestions and help are very welcomed.

So first I will put in this thread the timeline that I put in the thread of Mishery and let it rest some days, so all the people that wants to say, ask, comment or criticise anything about the first segments could do, after some days of possible suggestions, critics and questions I will continue the timeline:)
 

Iñaki

The beginning.

From 1976 to 1986.

1976: dead of Mao, struggle for the power, in this ATL the struggle last more that in OTL.

1978: Den Xiaoping fails to gain the struggle for the power against Hua Guofeng, he is accused of revisionism and searching alliances with the imperialists. Late in this year Hua Guofeng arrests Jiang Qing and the other members of the "Four Gang"

1979: Invasion of Cambodia by Vietnam and Afganistan by Soviet Union. Failure of the chinese plans to be autosufficient. War between China and Vietnam is a failure for China, he gains some territory in the frontier with Vietnam but the losses are very high.
Disturbances between the muslims of Sinkiang caused by the maoists politics of Hua Guofeng and the losses in Vietnam war cause public demostrations.

1980 Represion against public demonstrations in China. Hua Guofeng and Chen Xilian visits Moscow in one of the most shockings events of the 80´s.
Beginning of the negotiations between China and Soviet Union for an economic agreement.

1981. The polish crisis. Martial law in Poland. Chinese leaders supports in public the politics of the Breznev doctrine.

1982 Economic Treaty between China and the Soviet Union. Vietnam announces that is prepared to negotiate a peaceful agreement with China about Cambodia.

1983 Andropov succesor of Breznev. Vietnam and China accords a neutral government under Sihanouk. The Khmer Rouge accuses of traitors to the Chinese.

1984 Andropov signs the Mutual help and not Agression Treaty between China and Soviet Union. Andropov says that "only exists one China and Taiwan is part of China, we supports our brothers in this fight against imperialism in Taiwan".

1985 Beginning of the Andropov reforms (in this TL Andropov not dies in 1984 in part because the great personal happines by the new relations with China that helps his mind to resist his illness more). The perestroika is launched as economic measures to reform the sick body but not the pure comunnist heart of the Soviet Union ( in words of Andropov)

1986 An incident in a lithuanian central (not an important accident only an incident) marks the need for Andropov to deeps in the reforms. he orders a report to the Akademgodorok experts. China and the Soviet Union signs all a series of treaties to help mutually in the way of the economic reforms.
Japan, China and the Soviet Union signs a treaty to permit japanese investments in China and Siberia in exchange of technology. Ronald Reagan acusses Japan and some western european countries to help the communist regimes of China and Soviet Union to survive against the history.
 

Iñaki

1987: A decisive year Part 1.

1987. January: the experts of Akademgodorok present their report to Andropov and Politburo, they said that the economic reforms are very necessary, they advise to strengthen the ties with China, and make a complete reform of the nuclear power stations to stop possible new incidents and accidents.
With the fact that the reforms to the nuclear power stations implies that the Soviet Economy with a great dependency of nuclear energy will suffer a slower growth, Andropov decides to deepen the economic reforms, but he refuse the radical views of his protegee Gorbatxev.
He prefers to strengthen the ties with China, continue with the perestroika with more measures but for Andropov is clear that this reforms have to be cautious and no politic reforms, he doesn´t want any concession to possible reforms to make more democratic the Soviet Union.

March: coinciding with the retreat of the last vietnamese troops in Cambodia; China, the Soviet Union and Japan signs an agreement to deepen the economic ties and the exchange of technology.

April: for the first time since a long time ago, Moscow announces that he sees with good looking a meeting between the leaders of the two Germanies.

May: Erich Honecker, Helmuth Kohl and the soviet foreign minister Anatoli Dobrinin meets at Bonn and signs the agreement about to make possible a distension in Europe, also a series of minor economic agreements between the two Germanies and between Western Germany and Soviet Union are signed.

June: China and the Soviet Union agrees to make a joint meeting with the Afghan government later in november to discuss a possible joint politic about Afghanistan. From 1986 the air losses of the Soviet Union had been growing a lot caused by the deployment of Stinger missiles by the afghan guerrilla.

July: a sudden worsening of the health of Andropov causes his death in 21 july by a heart attack. The struggle for the power in the Kremlin begins.
 

Iñaki

Interlude. A general overview of the World history from the death of Mao (Sept 9 1976) until the death of Andropov (July 21 1987)

Interlude 1. US Presidential Election 1984

Clearly the campaign of the elections of 1984 was dominated by the balance of the first four years of Reaganomics and the fear among American people about the Cold War caused by the fact of the growing alliance between Soviet Union and China (In this year make debut the film "The Day After" which showed the life of the people of Kansas City destroyed by the effects of a Third World War caused by a Chinese invasion of Taiwan and the counterattack of the United States).

Nominations: With the very easy nomination of Ronald Reagan and George Bush as presidential and vicepresidential candidates of the Republican Party, the great debate was in the Democratic Party about who would be the candidate. Two great contestants were Gary Hart and Walter Mondale.
With the polls showing a clear advantage of Ronald Reagan, the Democrats pressed Gary Hart and Walter Mondale to arrive to an agreement. Finally Mondale and Hart agreed to present a sole candidacy with Walter Mondale as presidential candidate and Gary Hart as vicepresidential candidate.
With this the Democrats combined the political contacts of Mondale with the popularity of Hart in a desesperate attempt to reduce the advantage of Reagan and Bush among the electors.

View attachment pe1984.bmp

Red: Democratic Party Walter Mondale/Gary Hart 98 Electoral Votes.

Blue: Republican Party Ronald Reagan/George Bush 440 Electoral Votes.


The great advantage of the Republicans in their victory in the presidential election meant the end of the political life of Walter Mondale in the future as a possible democrat presidential candidate.
For Gary Hart, who was considered by political analysts as the most important cause that Democrats could win in 10 states (+ Columbia District), this election was other step in his way to get the democrat nomination in 1988.
 
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Iñaki

Countries chronology (sept 1976-july 1987)

1. Afghanistan.

1978. President Daud is deposed and dead in a copu leaded by Mohammad Taraki. The constitution is abolished. Afghanistan and Soviet Union sign a Friendship and Cooperation Treaty. Hard fighting between government troops and muslim rebels in the border with Pakistan.

1979. US ambassador Adolph Dubs is murdered by islamic rebels. Taraki is deposed and dead in a coup d´etat. The Revolutionary Council appoints Hafizullah Amin as president. Amin is deposed and dead in a second coup. 30000 soviet soldiers invade Afghanistan. Babrak Karmal appointed president by the soviets.

1980. Soviet and government troops continue to fighting against afghan guerrillas. Afghanistan is expelled of Islamic States Conference.

1981. More than 2,5 millions of afghans have run of the war to Pakistan and Iran. United States impose sanctions against Afghanistan.

1982. China and Soviet Union begin conversations to have a common position about Afghanistan.

1983. More than 100000 soviet soldiers fight against afghan guerrillas.

1984. Afghanistan, Soviet Union and China agrees to have a joint politic against Afghan guerrillas and the "imperialism" in Afghanistan.

1986. April: US administration begins to supply afghan rebels with Stinger missiles, increasing losses of soviet and afghan airforces.
November: caused by the rise of diplomatic relations of Iran with Soviet Union and China and the soviet help to Lybia, an ally of Iran, during the Lybian Crisis of april, Iran and Soviet Union agrees that afghan shiites enter in the afghan government in exhange of a neutral policy of Iran and afghan shiites in the war.

1987. January: Border incidents between afghan troops and pakistan troops.
April: Afghan guerrillas fail in their offensive against Kandahar. Soviet Union acknowledges high aircraft losses caused by the stingers.
May: Firefight between pakistani airforce and soviet and afghan airforces near Quetta: 1 Pakistani F-16, 2 Afghan Mig-23 and 1 Soviet An-12 are shot down in the combats.
July: Afghan president Babrak Karmal attends Andropov funerals.
 
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Iñaki

Countries chronology (sept 1976-july 1987)

2. Albania

1976. September. Albanian leader Enver Hoxha begins critizising new Chinese regime after Mao´s death.

December. A new constitution is promulgated by the People Assembly. Albania becomes a people´s socialist republic.

1977. Enver Hoxha supports the politics of the chinese leader Hua Guofeng against Den Xiaoping and other revisionists.

1978. After the fall of Den Xiaoping and the reinforcement of the position of Hua Guofeng, albanian prime minister Mehmet Shehu visits Pekin. A serie of new economic and military treaties are signed by Albania with China.

1979. Albania supports China in the war against Vietnam.

1980. Crisis in the relations with China after the beginning of the negotiations between China and the Soviet Union.

1981. April. Visit of prime minister Mehmet Shehu to Pekin to dicuss with General Secretary of the CCP Hua Guofeng the relations between China and Albania and the growing alliance of China and the Soviet Union.

September. Chinese Head of State Ye Jianying visits Tirana with a message of friendship of Hua Guofeng to "our beloved albanian comrades".

1982. Albania begins a cautious opening to the Soviet Union, a cultural agreement is signed with the Soviet Union under the mediation of China.

1983. With the health of Hoxha worsening, a silent struggle for the power begins between Ramiz Alia, the protegee of Hoxha, and the prime minister Mehmet Shehu.

1984. Albania praises Soviet leader Andropov and Chinese leader Hua Guofeng, after the announcement the 2nd may 1984 of the sign of the Mutual Help and No Agression Treaty between China and the Soviet Union, Hoxha affirms that "Our two big communists brothers, our two big comrades are now joined in a firm struggle against the imperialism" (This was one of the last public speechs of Hoxha before his death).

1985. 2 june. Enver Hoxha dies.
The struggle for the power between Ramiz Alia and Mehmet Shehu intensifies.
October. Ramiz Alia announces, after rumours of a possible military coup promoted by Mehmet Shehu, that a sudden illness has obligated prime minister Mehmet Shehu to retire from politic life.

1986. Greece and Albania signs peace treaty that ends the state of war that lasted since the World War II. Albania begins a very cautious economic reforms following the way of Soviet Union and China.
Modernization of the albanian armed forces, new equippments includes soviet tanks T-62 and early versions of the chinese fighter J-8.

1987. April: The relations with Yugoslavia worsens caused by Kosovo clashes between serbs and albanians.
July: Ramiz Alia and other albanian top leaders attends Andropov funerals (The Andropov funerals was considered by western journalist as the communist version of Queen Victoria funerals by the great number of communist leaders and personalities that attended his funeral, this caused a considerable number of caricatures in the western magazines and newspapers, the most famous possibily the drawed by french caricaturist Plantu in which the spirits of the Kaiser and Lenin appears in the middle of the Andropov funeral:rolleyes: )
 

Iñaki

Countries chronology (sept 1976-july 1987)

3. Algeria

1976. A new constitution is promulgated that reestablishes the National Assembly. Boumedienne is elected president. Mauritania and Morocco breaks their relations with Algeria caused by the support of Algeria to the Polisario Front, the guerrilla that fights for the independence of the Western Sahara against Morocco and Mauritania.

1977. The first elections under the new constitution happen.

1978. Boumedienne dies. Rabat Bilah is named provisional president.

1979. Chadli Benjedid is elected president. An amendment in the Constitution reduces the presidencial period to 5 years. Ben Bella is liberated by the government. Diplomatic relations with Mauritania are reestablished after the renounce of Mauritania to the Western Sahara.

1980. Abdelaziz Bouteflika is dismissed as foreign minister. Violent berber unrest in Tizi-Ouzou caused by the discrimination of the government against the berbers

1981. May. Benjedid begins reforms to "arabize" the country and to preserve the regionals languages.

July. Soviet foreign minister Andrei Gromiko visits Algeria. Benjedid and Gromiko talks about the growing new alliance between China and the Soviet Union. Gromiko supports the politics of Algeria in Western Sahara in support of Polisario Front. An economic treaty is signed between Soviet Union and Algeria.

1982. January. A chinese delegation visits Algeria, a serie of economical accords are signed with China.

November 1. Chinese and soviet economical and military advisors are present in the celebrations of the National Holiday.

1983. Diplomatic tension between Morocco and Algeria rises with some skirmishes between the two armies in the frontier.

1984. July. A treaty of military and economic mutual help is signed with China and Soviet Union.

Formally from this moment Algeria could be considered that is an ally of Soviet Union and China . (in fact the army, air force and navy from 1980 his principal supplier of armament is the Soviet Union)

Also with this treaty it is formalized that naval bases at Mers el Kebir and Annaba are now used also by the Eskadra (Soviet Naval Mediterranean Fleet).

1985. January. Tensions with Morocco rises, after US secretary of state James Baker visits Morocco and promises military help and support against any agression against the territory of Morocco (a reference to Polisario Front and Algeria) -The Baker Politics consisted in erode the soviet positions in the Third World with a progressive and agressive politic against the allies of Soviet Union and China, this politics will be continued by secretary of State Richard A. Clarke during his mandate as secretary of state (1993-2000) with better luck and a version more refined and reformed named popularly "Clarke doctrine" in fact although James Baker will be the figure most popular of the second Reagan administration Richard A Clarke will be far more popular during his mandate as secretary of state than James Baker in his mandate.

6 july-2 october. The second War of The Sands (the first happened in 1963) caused by the rising tensions between Algeria and Morocco and the support of Algeria to the Polisario Front also the fact that Algeria is a strong ally of the East Bloc and Morocco of USA makes this regional conflict another more in the list of the Cold War (1946-2001).

Algerian troops ocuppies Bouarfa, Taouz and Erfoud (july-agugust). For the Moroco is a war in two fronts because Polisario Front attacks the morocco garrisons in Western Sahara and south of Morocco (in fact Polisario Front after defeating Morocco troops ocuppies briefly Tarfaya 7-10 august).

Algerian troops but fails in the attempt to ocuppy Oudja (12 august-4 september) and they has more casualties than moroccan troops.

China and the Soviet Union supports Algeria while United Kingdom and United States support Morocco. France, Organization of African Unity, Arab League and United Nations attempt to make a ceasefire agreement but only the high losses of Algeria in the battle of Ar-Rachidiya (a battle of tanks as big as the egyptian-israeli battles in Yom Kippur War) in 26 september - a tactical draw but a moroccan strategic victory- convinces Algeria to accept a ceasefire (2 october).

November: beginning of the negotiations with Morocco according to the mediation of France, UN and OAU.

1986. January 4. An armistice is signed by Morocco and Algeria.

12 March. A victory parade is made in Algiers in honour to the algerian heroes of the war.
Chadli Benjedid praises his soviet and chinese allies, accept the armistice and the need to negotiate with Morocco for the peace of the region and accuses United States of imperialism because his support of Israel and in promoting war between arab nations.

April. Algeria supports Gaddafi in the crisis against United States.

July. One of the first visits of the new soviet foreign minister Anatoli Drobinin is Algeria, he is welcomed by Benjedid as the representant of " Soviet Union a great friend nation of Algeria".

August. Negotiations to evacuate the algerian troops from the Morocco territory (cities of Bouarfa, Taouz and Erfoud) breaks when algerian and Morocco troops clash near Zagora.

November. The Negotiations between Morocco and Algeria reopens with the mediation of the Arab League.

1987. January. Lybian leader Gaddafi visits Algeria. He signs a treaty of friendship with Algeria, Lybia accords to support Algeria in his help to the Polisario Front and Argelia although refuses the offer of a political union with Libya supports the lybian war in Chad (Gaddafi has a lot of more friends than in OTL:rolleyes: )

March. Algeria and Morocco accords a demilitarized zone of 5kms in both sides of the frontier. Also Algeria and Morocco begins the exchange of presoners of war.

April. Algerian troops begin the evacuation of the territory occupied in Morocco.

July. An algerian delegation including foreign minister and defense minister attends Andropov funerals.
 

Iñaki

Thank you Straha.:)

My initial project is to continue this timeline until nowdays, also apart of chronology, I will add in the final phases little biographies of not only politics but also actors, actress, musicians... (an example one of the biographies will be a little biography of Arnold Schwarzanegger with his filmography - and in this ATL he has a lot of action films caused by the ambient of pure cold war so there will 5 terminators films during the eighties and nineties and also two more Conan films than in OTL in the early 90´s : Conan : clash of blades (1992) with Dorothy Stratten in an interesting secondary paper as Red Sonja, and Conan the King (1994):cool: ).

So my initial intention is to make a mega-timeline looking not only the politics but too the arts, culture, cinema of a timeline where caused by the new alliance between China and Soviet Union the cold war is very cold or if you prefers say it of this manner very hot:).
 

Iñaki

1987: A decisive year Part 2.

The situation of the Politburo at the time of the dead of Andropov and the struggle for the Kremlin.

One year ago, in 1986 all the people had considered as favourite to the succession of Andropov his protegee Mikahil Gorbachev.

But in the period of one year and although the personal relation between Gorbachev and Andropov continued to be good, the fact is that a gap had been opened between the two men respect to the reform politics.

Although Gorbachev support strongly the politics of Andropov and also considered the alliance with China a key factor for the succes and supervivence of the socialism and the Soviet Union, the true is Gorbachev after the incident in the lithuanian central and the Akademgodorok report considered necessary a politic of deepening the reforms and also extend this to politic matters (this not means that Gorbachev wants a true democracy, only that considers the possibility of make of the soviets for example a more representative organ and also could elect between different communist candidates by the population), this radicalism of Gorbachev was caused in part not only by the Akademgodorok report also because as expert in agricultural and industrial matters Gorbachev has a lot of fear that the new alliance with China could cause the negative effect in the future that believing sufficient with this new alliance for solve the crucial problems and making, because this belief, only some cautious economic reforms at the end the Soviet Union and also China would be two great dinosaur giants with any possibility to modernize them without a total change of the government philosophy (this implies in the thinking of Gorbachev the fear that at the end, and because this belief of only need cautious reforms with the alliance with China, the only solution for save the Soviet Union could cause the supervivence of the Union but the fall of the communism).

Because this new Gorbachev thinking, the political relations from early 1987 were more cold between Andropov and Gorbachev.

Andropov although comprensive with the fears of Gorbachev considers this an alarmist and too much radical, also some doubts were born in the mind of Andropov about the ability of Gorbachev to govern the Soviet Union if Gorbachev thought of this manner.

This means in fact that at the time of the dead of Andropov a hard struggle begins between three factions: one that supports the new thinking of Gorbachev leaded by himself and named reformist or radical; another of the supporters of the andropovist reforms and the possibility of deepening them but without the radicalism of Gorbachev and also considering ever the alliance with China a key factor, this faction was leaded by an old breznevist converted to the cause of the andropovism Victor Grishin, this faction was named andropovist or centrist; finally another that considers that the alliance of China and the new treaties with the Western nations make not so necessary more deep reforms, this faction named conservative was leaded by Grigori Romanov.

The composition of Politburo in 21 july 1987 (dead of Andropov) in reference to his full members (the only that could vote to elect the next Secretary General) was the next (dividided according to their alignment):

-Reformist or radical faction: Gorbachev, Shevardnadze, Masherov

-Andropovist or centrist faction: Grishin, Aliyev, Tikhonov, Vorotnikov

-Conservative faction: Romanov, Scherbitsky, Kunayev

-Undecided members: Dobrinin, Ligachev, Solomentsev, Sokolov

During four days a strong struggle for the Kremlin happened within the Politburo.

First of all the leaders of each faction attempt to persuade the undecided to get his support, in the second day Sokolov was gained by Romanov while Solomentsev that at the beginning of the second day seems to support Gorbachev was in part convinced of the too much radicalism of this by Grishin and Tikhonov so at the beginning of the third day the situation was even more complicated because in reality apart of Sokolov that seems an strong supporter of Romanov the other undecided members not seem to know exactly who vote.

Finally were Ligachev and Dobrinin at the beginning of the fourth day that decided to support Grishin because the fear of the conservative way of Romanov and the fear of the possible radicalism of Gorbachev, the defense of Gorbachev of the need of more deepen reforms was in the fourth day so desperate that one of his initial strong partidaries Masherov realized that comrade Gorbachev was too much impulsive and decided to support Grishin.

Finally and after the last attempt of Romanov and Gorbachev to make change the mind the initial undecided members, a vote was made in the Politburo and the next leader of Soviet Union was elected.

So the winner is:

(Soviet Union anthem playing and Red Army chorus singing:D )


Victor Grishin.
 

Iñaki

Thanks a lot Wendell :)

The next installments will be very interesting, apart of continuing with Chronology of Countries, I will attempt to make new installments with the proper timeline, and I announce that we will have a very disputed election in 1988 in the United States, and the United States of TTL will have two important wars against two important nations in 1988 and 1989 (not against Soviet Union, so for the moment not Third World War)

It will be hot, hot times, the times of the "Seven Years of Crises" (1988-1994) (well in fact only 4 important crises or wars although these seven years were in TTL so hot in the history of Cold War of this TTL (1946-2001) that historians of TTL refers it with this name)
 

JP_Morgan

You say there will be two wars with two important countries. Can I assume one will be in the Middle East, perferably one with a lot of oil?:)
 

Iñaki

You are right, one of these is in the Middle East and with a lot of oil, in fact I suppose that after saying this, I am sure that the most part of the people could imagine easily what country of Middle East is:) .
 

Iñaki

1987: A decisive year Part 3.

The Road to Iran War.

25 july 1987. Victor Grishin is elected by the Politburo new leader of the Soviet Union.

August 1987. The second iranian offensive Against Basra arrives to only 5-3 km of the city, the desperate use of reserves by Iraq succeeds in stop the iranian offensive but the iraquies has used almost all their reserves.

President of United States Ronald Reagan announces that before the critical situation in Persian Gulf and the great quantity of military material that Soviet Union and China are sending to Iran (T-72 model export tank, BMPs, fighters Mig-23 and also Mig-25, missiles Silkworm....) has decided to increase dramatically the military help to Irak: in the next months Tow missiles, tanks M-60, Phantoms and other militar hardware is being sent to Irak to help Saddam´s Hussein regime in his fight against Iran.

Also announces that because the massive soviet and chinese help to Iran and the needs to preserve the strategic position of the United States in the Middle East and to protect the arab Persian Gulf monarchies against the possible dangers of Iran he has ordered the deployment in the Persian Gulf and the Oman Gulf of three carrier groups: centered in the carriers Constellation, Independence and Ranger. Are too deployed some submarines class Los Angeles and from late august 1987 in the bases of Dahran, Manama and Doha begins the gradual deployment of squadrons of F-15s, F-111. The Persian Gulfs monarchies with a lot of fear of Iran and the irani rearmament with soviet and chinese material agrees to this deployment. The B-52 in the base of Diego Garcia are also alerted. In fact the United States are preparing to the possibility of an iraqui collapse and the need to intervene against Iran.

21 august. The military president of Brasil Joao Baptista Figueiredo announces that the first free presidential elections of Brasil will be made in november 1988 (Figueiredo had announced in january 1986 the beginning of a democratic transition that would end with the retirement of the militars of the government and the beginning of a true democracy).

September 1987. 16-21 A joint visit of the chinese and soviet foreign ministers Anatoli Dobrinin and Li Peng to Nigeria ends with the sign of all a series of economic and military agreements of China and Soviet Union with Babangida military regime. The agreement includes the modernization of the military forces of Nigeria specially the navy and air forces (an example is the adquisition of two Koni class frigates to the soviets and a 2 squadrons of F7-M to the chinese). Also is signed an economic cooperation accord of Nigeria with the COMECON. United States and the United Kingdom accusses Babangida of abandoning the neutrality in favour of an alliance with the communist regimes.

17-28 Second Conference of Delhi (the first happened in 1985) between the representants of United States, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Blanga-Desh, Nepal, Bhutan and Maldives. The participants accords the formation of the Delhi Pact Cooperation Organization (DPCO) a defensive organization against the agressive soviet politic in Afganistan and the chinese agressive policy in the zone of Aksai also the organization accords to help the Sri Lanka government in the fight against Tamil searching the ways to a possible peace in this nation and help the Nepal government to the growing insurgence of maoist guerilla helped by the chinese.
At the end of the Conference and with the common agreement of all the members (all the representations were of presidential and prime minister level except the United States represented by Secretary of State James Baker) the prime minister Indira Gandhi (in TTL had not Amritsar Golden Temple assault and so no murder of Indira Gandhi -because the growing alliance between China and Soviet Union Indira Gandhi was more cautious and diplomatic with sikhs to avoid more internal unrest in India that could weaken the indian position before the chinese that are allied with the soviets-) announces tha India will deploy troops in Sri Lanka and Nepal to help the governments to fight against insurgency.

October. 12 The first use of a Mig-25 in combat happens when an iranian Mig-25 shots down 2 mirage F-1 of Irak.

12-17 Victor Grishin assists to an special meeting of Warsaw Pact and the COMECON. Before the members of the two organizations he reafirms in the way of Andropov reforms and also declaring that Soviet Union is prepared ever to help his socialist brothers against any possible problem against capitalist and imperialist agitators (an indirect form to say that there will reforms but also the Brezhnev doctrine is totally active). Grishin and the members of COMECON accors to give the steps to modernize this organization and make it an authentic common market of socialist countries.

26. The communist guerrillas of NPA in Philippines accords a temporal truce with the government of Benigno Aquino, this althoug has good relations with United States (the Philippines receive a great economic help with the presence of US military bases in the country) has also pursued a more neutral policy and attempt to negotiate some kind of peace with communist and muslim guerrillas.

November 1987. Iran announces that with soviet help the new naval base of Bandar Beheshti is completed. The base will be the site of an important part of the new naval units purchased to Soviet Union (in these moments there are in the naval base 2 foxtrot submarines, 1 Riga class destroyer, 4 Koni Frigate and an undetermined number of Nanutchka, Grisha I and Osa I units betwen other units), the base also have a sophisticated soviet style antiaircraft instalations, naval defenses of Silkworm missiles and a nearby air base of interceptors Mig-23.
Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher accuses Soviet Union and China to help Iran to get the predominant power in the Persian Gulf "putting in danger the peace of the region" soviets and chinese accuses of cynicals both United States and United Kingdom.
Ronald Reagan announces that before the new growing tension in the Gulf new units are being added to the initial planned deployment in the Gulf, apart of the submarines Los Angeles, the air deployment and the three carrier groups, Reagan announces the deployment of the I MEF in the Persian Gulf and Oman Gulf and also the deployment of 82 airborne division in Bahrein and Qatar. The soviets, chinese and iranies accuses Reagan of being him the true warmonger.
The soviets announces that are helping the iranians to reform the air defenses to disuade any possible air attack against Iran by any nation (apart of the new naval base of Bandar Behesthi, another place where the soviet armament and advisors is clearly present is in the Mehrabad air base and Doshan Tarpeh air base where is situated the core of the new soviet-built aircrafts -as for example the most part of the 60 Mig-25 foxbat purchased by Iran).

December 1987. An attack of RENAMO guerrillas with the help of sout-african advisors against the presidential convoy in Maputo ends with 16 deads in the convoy between them the president Samora Machel. Joaquim Chissano is the successor of Machel in the Mozambique FRELIMO government.

With the tensions in the Persian Gulf rising the world has a Christmas celebrations plenty of peoccupation and fear about the situation in the Middle East.
 
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Iñaki

Thanks birdie:)

Yes, my initial plans is take this timeline until 2006, and when I arrive to 2006 in TTL make regular posts each month with the new events of TTL (so for example if I arrive to year 2006 in TTL in july, surely you will see that in august I will make a new installment with the events of august 2006), apart of this my initial plans is to make it also a mega time-line with segments about culture, alternate films, alternate biographies, countries chronologies...

The next segments will talk about Iran War (it will be a war far more difficult for USA than OTL Persian Gulf War of 1991) and about Presidential Elections in 1988.
 

Iñaki

1988. The year of the Iran War. Part 1. Prelude.

(image of the year: a photo of a US marine wounded in a hand and in a leg that is helped by two other marines to walk in a street of the town of Gavarzin in the Qeshm island, is seen in the background of the photo a burning AAVP7A1 and a damaged M60A3, in the street on the ground some dead bodies of iranian regular soldiers and/or pashdaran militians)

January. 16 Is announced that Babrak Karmal is replaced as president of Afganisthan by Muhammad Najibullah. Najibullah is considered by Moscow and the ruling afghan party PDPA a man more capable to strengthen the relations with the chiies of the Hezb-e-Wahdat and his leader Abdul Ali Mazari in the coalition government.
Najibullah announces that the coalition government between Hezb-e-Wahdat and PDPA is open to another parties and indicates that is prepared to make a truce with the guerrillas and begin conversations of peace.
The answer from the different guerrilla factions is unanimous: no to the conversations of peace while accussing the Hezb-e-Wahdat of sell itself to the soviets.

18. Kuwait announces that has given permission to the United States and United Kingdom to use their airbases for the US and UK airplanes. Kuwait accuses Iran of wanting to rule all the Persian Gulf.

22. Prime minister Margaret Thatcher announces that the UK is deploying several squadrons of Tornados to help the United States in the military dispositive in the Persian Gulf. The Tornados will be deployed in Qatar and Kuwait.

February. 6 The meeting between the presidents of Ecuador (Jaime Roldos), Peru (Alan
Garcia), Costa Rica (Oscar Arias) and Venezuela (Jaime Lusinchi) ends with the Declaration of Lima: the declaration announces that the four presidents seek a position of neutrality in the Cold War and searching the peace in Centroamerica and South America. Also is supported the transition of democracy of Brasil. The four condemns the injerence of Soviet Union and United States in the internal situation of the american countries and the repressive politics of Pinochet in Chile and Roberto d´Aubuisson in El Salvador.

12-25. Afghan guerrillas fails in an attack against Herat and Kandahar although part of the city of Kandahar falls briefly in the hands of the guerrilla but the fast deployment of reinforcements by soviets and afghan army permits this to reoccupy the city (in the combats of Kandahar dies also a man named Muhammad Omar Akhund –in OTL he will be in the future the Mullah Omar-)

27. A general uprising begins in the Iraki Kurdistan. The kurds helped by the Iran government gets the control of Sulameiniya and Erbil. Saddam Hussein desperate deploys some of his last reserves and last military equipment received from United States to Kurdistan to crack the rebellion but the kurds although not get to conquest Mosul or Kirkuk resist all the attacks against Erbil and Sulameiniya.

March. 5 The civil war in Zimbabwe that begins in 1983 has some of his more hard fighting when troops of the ZAPU of Nkomo aided by the aviation of South Africa and some units of sout-african commandos attempt to take the capital Harare. During two weeks there are very hard fighting for the capital, at the end but the help from soviet and chinese assesors and cuban troops saves the capital to be taken by the ZAPU.

12. The final iranian offensive against Basra begins. The first days the iranian advance is stooped by the iraquies helped of the western armament deployed lately.
At the end but the 16 an uprising between the chiites begins in Basra, this and the deployment of some of the last iraqui reserves in the Kurdistan and the modern material employed by the iranians (in his most part soviet or chinese) makes the iraqui front line breaks.

14. The United States announce that has decided to deploy apart of the forces yet deployed the Carl Vinson carrier group and the Missouri battlegroup.

22. The first iranian troops enter in Basra. There is some hard fighting in the city but the most part of the iraqui army in the south attempts to reorganize 10 kms west of the city. The Iranian army makes a pause also to attempt to reorganize his troops and to deploy more reserves to the front line. For the moment there is a pause in the operations.

26. An urgent meeting of the Security Council of the United Nations under the presidency of Secretary General Javier Perez de Cuellar only serves to show the differences between the two blocks: a joint petition about the Iran-Irak War of United Kingdom and United States seconded with more reluctances of France to obligate to cease-fire and the retreat of all the forces to his frontiers (naturally now that is Iran who is occupying iraki territory, this declaration is clearly in favour of Irak) is vetoed by the Soviet Union and China that not accepts the definition of agressor for Iran.
The meeting ends with insults and mutual accusations between the representants of the superpotences and his allies.

28. Ronald Reagan after accusing soviets and chinese to stop any possible diplomatic solution to the Persian Gulf Crisis and supporting the agressive and expansionist policy of Iran announce that has demanded an special congress session to give war powers to the executive before the very grave situation that menaces the peace in the Persian Gulf and in the world. Also is reinforced the deployment of US forces in the Gulf. The first B-1 bombers and stealth fighters F-117 begins to be deployed in bases of Arabia Saudi and Bahrein.

29. Soviet Union and China announces that the socialist nations are prepared to help Iran against any agression sending military help (armament and assesors) the two announces that at difference of United States, Soviet Union and China not will send troops to Persian Gulf because both nations not want to “help the warmonger and imperialist president of United States to begins a Third World War” (from a public discourse of Victor Grishin about the Iran crisis).
A joint declaration of the president of Iran Ali Radjai, the spiritual guide of the Revolution Jomeini and the Commander of the Revolutionary Armed Forces Ali Rafsanjani vows to fight until the end against the possible agression of the United States and his allies.

April. The defensive dispositions in Iran are reinforced by new military material and technicians and assesors from China and Soviet Union (Soviet Union has given permission for example to the assesors in the iranian airforce to help the iranians in case of war manning also MIGS – the situation more or less like in Korea war of 1950´s- and antiaircraft positions), so for example the inital 60 Mig-25 of the Iranian airforce are reinforced by another additional 15 25 mig-25 (the most part of the Mig-25 are deployed in Tehran airbases althoug some of them are deployed in Bandar Behesthi air base).
The United States and United Kingdom are also reinforcing their positions in the Gulf while Arabia Saudi and the other states of the Gulf Cooperation Council orders full mobilization and alert to their armed forces.

6-9. Hizbollah guerrilas begin a serie of attacks against israeli and Christian position in Lebanon, Israel after bombing hizbollah position clashes in 10-11 with syrian aircrafts in the skies of the Bekaa Valley: only 1 Kfir fighter-bomer is reported loss with 3 other F-16 damaged, the losses of the syrians are of more or less 21 migs (the most part Mig-23)

12. An special session in the Congress aproves by a wide margin give war powers to the Executive, the support of the democrats candidates to the presidency Gary Hart and vicepresidency Mario Cuomo helps to obtain this wide margin. The democrats announces his support to the nation in this moment of danger but indicating that they will support the president not forgetting the need of constructive criticism.

14. A session in the Parliament of UK is more noising and with more differences that in the United States Congress but the Prime Minister manages also to get the support of the Laborist Party to the approval of the british possible intervention in a war against Iran.

15. An urgent meeting of the Arab League only shows the deep division between the members : Argelia, Lebanon, Libia, Mauritania, Siria, Sudan and South Yemen are clearly contrary to the intervention of western nations in the Iran Crisis. Arabia Saudi, Bahrein, United Arab Emirates, Irak, Jordania, Kuwait, and Oman accusses this nations to aprove the expansionist and agressive policy of Iran.

20. Ronald Reagan announces that has given an ultimatum to Iranian forces to retreat to his frontier and begin a cease-fire in case contrary a military american-british intervention would be innevitable. He fixes the end of the time of ultimatum to 0 hours GMT of 24 april.

21. Iran announces that is prepared to confront any agression from United States and United Kingdom.

22. The code name of the operation against Iran is “Desert Sword”

23. A last calling to a peaceful end of the Crisis is made in a dramatic discourse of the Pope John Paul II.

24. The time of the ultimatum ends with any positive answer from Iran. Ronald Reagan and Margaret Tatcher gives the orders to begin operations against Iran in the moment that the military commanders in the Gulf considers more apropiated.

Night 24. Desert Sword begins.

Wave after wave of airplanes take off from air bases from Kuwait to Qatar and from the decks of the four US carriers deployed in the Persian or Oman Gulf.

The B-52 are also in the skyes from the base of Diego Garcia and from the US cruisers and Los Angeles Submarines the first Tomahawks are launched against iranian objectives.

The first shots of the war are HARM missile fired from EA-6, F-18 and F-4 against the radar installations of the iranian defense system.....


 

Iñaki

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Some notes about this ATL:

Some persons died in OTL and not died in TTL (this is only a provisional list):

Indira Gandhi: Murdered in 1984 in OTL by sikhs bodyguards. In TTL with a more cautious and diplomatic politic about the sikh reivindication of Khalistan caused by the need of not making more enemies in a context of a Soviet Union-China alliance and an agressive chines policy in Nepal and Kashmir Indira Gandhi is not murdered. In 1988 she is prime minister of India.

Jaime Roldos: Died in 1981 in an aviation accident in OTL. Butterflied this accident by secondary and terciary changes in TTL by the Chaos Theory of Alternate Worlds. He is a very charismatic and popular president of Ecuador and leader of the socialdemocrat party Pueblo, Cambio y Democracia (People, Change and Democracy). He is the soul of the declaration of Lima.

Dorothy Stratten: an old playmate with an incipient career as film actress. Murdered in OTL in 1980 by ex-husband Paul Snider. In TTL the butterflies of the terciary and secondary changes makes Paul Snider being more obsesed an attempts to attack Dorothy in public, this makes Dorothy more cautious and when Paul attempts to murder her she wounded could escape and get help from some policemen. Snider dies in 1984 in a prison at the hands of other recluse (Dorothy not assist to his funerals). She has had interesting secondary apparitions in some important films and series until 1988 (including regular apparitions in one of the most popular and important TV series of the 1980´s "Code Name: Clever" -principal actor Richard Dean Anderson- a darker version of the McGyver of OTL) first principal paper in a serie with "Secret Agent" first episode in the air in 1989 that gives her and his partner in the serie Pierce Brosnan a very important step to principal roles in future films and series. First important paper in a film: "Conan: clash of Blades" of 1992 with Arnold Scharwenegger as Conan, Dorothy Stratten as Red Sonja and John Malkowich as Toth Ammon between other actors.
In 2006 of TTL she is married with the actor Dennis Quaid and they have two daughters: Katie of 9 years old and Julie of 5 years old.

And one person that dies in TTL and not dies in OTL (this is only a provisional list):

Carlos Andres Perez. Died in february 1987 in TTL in an accident car. In OTL he was elected in october 1987 as candidate of ADECO party in Venezuela and succesor of Jaime Lusinchi for the next elections in 1988. In TTL without Carlos Andres Perez was elected candidate Octavio Lepage Barreto the favourite of Jaime Lusinchi.
 
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