Democrat Wank, 1988

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With a POD of 1980, explain how this final electoral college map for the U.S presidental election in 1988 came to be.

Orange is Democrat, blue is Republican.
 
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With a POD of 1980, explain how this final electoral college map for the U.S presidental election in 1988 came to be.

Orange is Democrat, blue is Republican.

Ronald Reagan, is shot and killed in 1981, George H.W. Bush picks Alexander Haig as VP, however he doesn't run in 1988, after a long bloody primary between Bob Dole, Jack Kemp, Jeane Kirkpatrick and Pat Buchanan

Jack Kamp pulled through by a hair, Donald Rumsfeld as his VP

the Dems Run Lloyd Bentsen and Mario Cuomo
 
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With a POD of 1980, explain how this final electoral college map for the U.S presidental election in 1988 came to be.

Orange is Democrat, blue is Republican.
9s for the democrats, really crazy opinions and 1s for the Republicans?
Oh, in real life. :p
Have some really crap economy before the election.
 
9s for the democrats, really crazy opinions and 1s for the Republicans?
Oh, in real life. :p
Have some really crap economy before the election.

Actually, this was with a moderate Democrat versus a moderate Republican vs. a fairly liberal third-party candidate, along with a good Democratic president before this...
 

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What did the New York Mets take over the country, those colors make it look like shea stadium.

Anyway, Your going to need Regan and his destructive policies :) out of the picture, maybe a death before he becomes popular. have a republican power struggle which rips apart the party. They regroup But the Dems pick up a huge win.
 
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With a POD of 1980, explain how this final electoral college map for the U.S presidental election in 1988 came to be.

Orange is Democrat, blue is Republican.

Dukakis doesnt screw up his campaign, or somebody a little more effective (Biden, hart, Gephardt) runs instead. Or lee atwater chokes on a pretzel, or dukakis gets a better campaign manager.

Seriously, he was leading by 17 points at one point during the campaign. It takes a very special campaign to see that sort of lead get reversed in a matter of months.
 
Dukakis doesnt screw up his campaign, or somebody a little more effective (Biden, hart, Gephardt) runs instead. Or lee atwater chokes on a pretzel, or dukakis gets a better campaign manager.

Seriously, he was leading by 17 points at one point during the campaign. It takes a very special campaign to see that sort of lead get reversed in a matter of months.


Perhaps if you have Dukakis respond angrily and vigorously to both Willie Horton and the ridiculous debate question about his wife, it becomes turnabout and backfires on the Republicans. I don't know if it could lead to a rout that big, but it certainly could lead to a Dukakis victory.
 
Perhaps if you have Dukakis respond angrily and vigorously to both Willie Horton and the ridiculous debate question about his wife, it becomes turnabout and backfires on the Republicans. I don't know if it could lead to a rout that big, but it certainly could lead to a Dukakis victory.

Dukakis ran a pretty lackluster, sloppy campaign as it was. Avoid the whole Abrams incident, a better response to Willie Horton, a better second debate, any of those things could concievably have saved his campaign. Maybe not in isolation, but it could be argued that his whole collapse was far from inevitable.
 
Go to the Atlas political election forum. They have a good electoral college calculator with maps going back to I think 1900. You can invent the results of your own alternate election for whatever year.
 
One POD that could explain the situation is either the "October Surprise" of the 1980 election is the successful deployment of Delta Force to rescue the Iran Embassy hostages.

Another POD could be that the alleged "October Surprise" meeting James Baker and Iranian officials to delay the hostage release until after the election is revealed by the press...


A third one is that the 1986 Special Prosecutor in the Iran-Contra Scandal is able to make charges stick against President Reagan and Vice-President Bush.
 
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