Delay the Great Turkish war until the death of Carlos II.

My challenge for you is to delay the Great Turkish War of 1683-1699 until the war of Spanish Succession.

What would for you the results be in such scenario? A total French victory? As this would butterfly away the war of of 1688 with France therefore not wrecking the Dutch Republic but also no experienced Austria nor France.
 
The war started with an Ottoman attack on Vienna - so the POD should be something that changes their desire for that.

Also the Nine years war against France was at the same time 1688-1697 and that was far from a total french victory. It also shows that in a similar scenario Austria would concentrate on the Western European conflict. However the Nine years war started after Austria gained a lot of confidence kicking the turks out of Hungary and at that point even Northern Serbia. So much confidence that they were willing to fight on two fronts at the same time. Without the huge victories Austria might be inclined to make peace with the Ottomans early - lets say after the siege of Vienna fails - and concentrate on the french in the west.

I think the french would still fare about the same as OTL in the west - maybe worse as Austria fights a one front was in the Nine years war. When the war of the Spanish succession starts about the same time as the Great turkish War Austria will have to concentrate on the turks at the beginning. If he can beat them I expect an early peace and they concentrate on France - this will have OTL like results there. I cant predict what happens if the Ottomans take Vienna but I think that would cause a pretty big uproar in Europe and lay the ground work for an even more crusade like push against the Ottomans than the Grwat turkish War - not right away but even that isnt out of the question. Not even France wants the Ottomans in Vienna.

Most importantly I expect the Ottomans to be kicked out of Hungary decades later than OTL.
 
Agree with @Tibi088 on some points. If push comes to shove and Leopold has to choose he will choose to go agx France/fight for the Spanish inheritance than focus on Hungary, case in point was the Austro-Turkish war 1663-64, leading to the Peace of Vasar. Based on the wikipedia page, the initiative was with the Austrians and the Holy League but Leopold peaced out to focus on France, Spain and the Rhine. It can be spun for Leopold in the sense that he is Emperor and would be defending parts of the Empire, though comes at the cost of King of Hungary-Croatia not defending those realms. I think on a diplomatic front, this isolates France a bit especially if Vienna falls, it weakens Austria to the extent that there isn't really a counter balance to France on the continent and should France then get their candidate on the throne of Spain, all of continental Europe may as well be partitioned between the Osmanoglu's & the Capets (hyperbolic I know) but it's pretty much what it comes to
France Spain & Portugal are all Capets assuming total gains for the French faction,
then there are the petty states of Germany and a much weakened Habsburg;
PLC would likely be french allies in this scenario, Sobieski was supported by the French and has a French wife and while greatly capable and independent of mind if Austria is this weakened he'll keep the French alliance;
Sweden focuses on Denmark-Norway & Russia, Franco-Ottoman-Swedish bloc hem Russia; Denmark-Norway won't do anything.

Absolutely no one would want such as scenario except well, France and the Ottomans
 
Agree with @Tibi088 on some points. If push comes to shove and Leopold has to choose he will choose to go agx France/fight for the Spanish inheritance than focus on Hungary, case in point was the Austro-Turkish war 1663-64, leading to the Peace of Vasar. Based on the wikipedia page, the initiative was with the Austrians and the Holy League but Leopold peaced out to focus on France, Spain and the Rhine. It can be spun for Leopold in the sense that he is Emperor and would be defending parts of the Empire, though comes at the cost of King of Hungary-Croatia not defending those realms. I think on a diplomatic front, this isolates France a bit especially if Vienna falls, it weakens Austria to the extent that there isn't really a counter balance to France on the continent and should France then get their candidate on the throne of Spain, all of continental Europe may as well be partitioned between the Osmanoglu's & the Capets (hyperbolic I know) but it's pretty much what it comes to
France Spain & Portugal are all Capets assuming total gains for the French faction,
then there are the petty states of Germany and a much weakened Habsburg;
PLC would likely be french allies in this scenario, Sobieski was supported by the French and has a French wife and while greatly capable and independent of mind if Austria is this weakened he'll keep the French alliance;
Sweden focuses on Denmark-Norway & Russia, Franco-Ottoman-Swedish bloc hem Russia; Denmark-Norway won't do anything.

Absolutely no one would want such as scenario except well, France and the Ottomans

I think France was already pretty isolated during the Nine Years War and the War of Spanish Succession. Louis XIV's expansionism ensured that. I disagree about the position of the Ottomans. The french didnt want the Ottomans too strong and taking Vienna. They wanted them as a distraction thats good for making the Habsburg occupied and not someone who completly takes them out. Also you cant have the PLC, Sweden and Ottomans as allies. They have too many problems between each other for that to work on the long run. Also all three are getting in a pretty bad position for internal reasons France cant do anything about so they wont be reliable in the long run.
 
In case Sobieski still dies the same time, what would August II do in the alternate bigger Spanish war of succession? In case he is chosen as King.

He doesn't really have anything to gain though. I can see him committing Saxon troops to the WoSS but PLC won't be involved at all. They PLC will focus on the Ottomans and possibly make a separate peace if they feel the Empire is too distracted and the is agx the Ottoman's is going badly.
 
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