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Okay, so the USA knows that there is a Japanese Carrier within striking range of Panama, and their interpretation of "not provoking Japan" involves sitting around defenseless ?
What is it with people here NOT ACTUALLY READING my scenario ? I know its a long one but come on gents, please READ IT before you comment.
Not at all. The submarine's radio deception broadcasts are intended to allow the Americans to believe that Chitose continues her delivery trip towards Argentina, a couple of thousand miles away from Panama.
However please see your Nov.28'41 USN war warning mesage order at http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar//PTO/EastWind/CNO-411127.html for "If hostilities cannot repeat not be avoided the United States desires that Japan commit the first overt act." Could it be ANY clearer ?
Sure, there's no HOSTILE INTENT there, just a matter of a communications breakdown in the end of November and a major war scare between Japan and the United States. Like this is not going to provoke a higher alert.
Against a single ship known (incorrectly as it would turn out) by RDF to be over two thousand miles away and receeding daily ??? Unlikely.
And then there is the part where you assume that in this higher alert posture, that Mavis Bombers are going to be allowed to cherry pick targets in the middle of what is likely to be a lack of tactical surprise. Indeed, if the USA is aware of Japanese Ships near Panama at this late point, why the hell won't they consider air recon or other efforts to keep alert?
The whole point of Japan's ATL deception efforts would be to ensure that Panama's American defenders would have NO IDEA AT ALL that Chitose was any closer than a couple of thousnd miles away and headed, on schedule, for Argentina.
This reader says: "Not impossible Feat" but not a very likely one, either. Accept the 1:100 chance and run with it, and then write about how Japan lost the entire force it sent to Galapagos.
You don't read very well, do you ?
I note that you have yet to provide any detail at all on how/why you feel that my entire ATL Panama attack force would/could be destroyed ?
Okay, so the USA knows that there is a Japanese Carrier within striking range of Panama, and their interpretation of "not provoking Japan" involves sitting around defenseless ?
What is it with people here NOT ACTUALLY READING my scenario ? I know its a long one but come on gents, please READ IT before you comment.
Not at all. The submarine's radio deception broadcasts are intended to allow the Americans to believe that Chitose continues her delivery trip towards Argentina, a couple of thousand miles away from Panama.
However please see your Nov.28'41 USN war warning mesage order at http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar//PTO/EastWind/CNO-411127.html for "If hostilities cannot repeat not be avoided the United States desires that Japan commit the first overt act." Could it be ANY clearer ?
Sure, there's no HOSTILE INTENT there, just a matter of a communications breakdown in the end of November and a major war scare between Japan and the United States. Like this is not going to provoke a higher alert.
Against a single ship known (incorrectly as it would turn out) by RDF to be over two thousand miles away and receeding daily ??? Unlikely.
And then there is the part where you assume that in this higher alert posture, that Mavis Bombers are going to be allowed to cherry pick targets in the middle of what is likely to be a lack of tactical surprise. Indeed, if the USA is aware of Japanese Ships near Panama at this late point, why the hell won't they consider air recon or other efforts to keep alert?
The whole point of Japan's ATL deception efforts would be to ensure that Panama's American defenders would have NO IDEA AT ALL that Chitose was any closer than a couple of thousnd miles away and headed, on schedule, for Argentina.
This reader says: "Not impossible Feat" but not a very likely one, either. Accept the 1:100 chance and run with it, and then write about how Japan lost the entire force it sent to Galapagos.
You don't read very well, do you ?
I note that you have yet to provide any detail at all on how/why you feel that my entire ATL Panama attack force would/could be destroyed ?
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