De Republiek forever- Dutch Republic Restored

In 1795, the Dutch Republic was overthrown by the Batavian Republic, then was replaced in 1806 by the Kingdom of Holland during the Napoleonic Wars.

After the war, in 1815, a monarchy was established by William VI, who became William I.

But what if, instead the Dutch Republic was reestablished during the Congress of Vienna?

How would this change the political history during the early 19th century?
How would this effect Belgium?
How would economics work in the reestablished Dutch Republic?
 
How would this change the political history during the early 19th century?
well that means a different Batavia and one more true republicans(not french puppets) out performed the old stadholder so they got the main representation in vienna thus maybe less monarchism from that side.

How would this effect Belgium?
If they got belgium(i can see the orange demanding a burgundian/belgium kingdom as compensation) they might created a better national charter thus more integration with catholic south, unless the french walloons try something later

How would economics work in the reestablished Dutch Republic?
If they keep all seventeen provinces, the dutch industrialization will be even more massive OTL and with the colonies would be a massive cash flow, more if they got Congo.
 
In 1795, the Dutch Republic was overthrown by the Batavian Republic, then was replaced in 1806 by the Kingdom of Holland during the Napoleonic Wars.

After the war, in 1815, a monarchy was established by William VI, who became William I.

But what if, instead the Dutch Republic was reestablished during the Congress of Vienna?

How would this change the political history during the early 19th century?
How would this effect Belgium?
How would economics work in the reestablished Dutch Republic?
What If the Dutch become something like the European Version of the thirteen colonies ?
 
Also, if the Netherlands remained a republic(sort of) how would this change the economics of the Dutch? Would they try to recreate another VOC?
 
With a pod of 1815, the major change during the French period can't be undone. In 1795 the republic wasn't a unitary state, it was a confederation. A republic in the 19th century would be completely different from the one from the 18th century.
 
How would this change the effect on Belgium? If the French Waloons did try to separate and take a province where they had access to the Ocean, how would the Republic

Or if the French waloons do stay, how would this effect colonization?
 
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In 1795, the Dutch Republic was overthrown by the Batavian Republic, then was replaced in 1806 by the Kingdom of Holland during the Napoleonic Wars.
After the war, in 1815, a monarchy was established by William VI, who became William I.
But what if, instead the Dutch Republic was reestablished during the Congress of Vienna?
A)How would this change the political history during the early 19th century?
B)How would this effect Belgium?
C)How would economics work in the reestablished Dutch Republic?

1- How does this restoration look like? The boundaries of the republic before 1795? How would the constitution look like, the same as before 1795 or a modernized version like the USA?
The government of the Dutch Republic was a confederation with federal tendencies, which did not work and ended in an oligarchy.
Only one Province ( Holland) and one city (Amsterdam) had dominated the other Provinces and only the interest of Holland and Amsterdam was important in the decision of the Republic.
Hence the voting system of the founding fathers of the USA to prevent domination by a few states over the others.
A- Does this Republic include the former Austrian Netherlands?

B- No change since the Dutch republic, before 1795 was a minor power.
C- Nothing different as in OTL, how would this be different??
 
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Skallagrim

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The Dutch leaders who eagerly welcomed William back wanted him to establish a monarchy. William wanted to establish a monarchy. Most everyone in Vienna favoured a monarchy. Going against that will be difficult. Perhaps the easiest way to do it would be for the Stadtholder and his family to die in a shipwreck as they flee the Netherlands. That way, there won't be such an obvious candidate to take the throne, and restoring the old republic with an elected Stadtholder (the more recent 'inherited' nature of the position being quietly dropped).
 
The Dutch leaders who eagerly welcomed William back wanted him to establish a monarchy. William wanted to establish a monarchy. Most everyone in Vienna favoured a monarchy. Going against that will be difficult. Perhaps the easiest way to do it would be for the Stadtholder and his family to die in a shipwreck as they flee the Netherlands. That way, there won't be such an obvious candidate to take the throne, and restoring the old republic with an elected Stadtholder (the more recent 'inherited' nature of the position being quietly dropped).
Agreed, as long as an Orange-Nassau is alive, the Netherlands will be turned into a monarchy, unless maybe if Willem I sided and cooperated with Napoleon for too long and the allies decide to get rid of him. Maybe in that case I could see the Republic restored. There is basicly no other claimant in the male line of the Orange-Nassau family and I doubt the allies would accept Louis Napoleon as king of the Netherlands. So a republic is basicly the only option.

Even without a stadholder, the new Dutch Republic can not be similar as the old Dutch Republic.That Republic had simply failed. It basicly was too corrupt and too unstable. Especialy if we add Belgium it would simply become weird. Would all of the Belgian lands become Generality lands? That would simply not work. Some sort of unitary state would need to becreated, with some sort of equal rights to catholics (and other christians and maybe even Jews). Probably the Batavian Republic or commonwealth would be used as a foundation of the new country, although both weren't terribly stable either (although having no Napoleon demanding all kinds of things would help.

So, how about the Belgians. Would they be happy? I think they would be more happy than they were in the Kingdom. At least there would be no Willem II to screw everything up. Also, I doubt this Netherlands would not be split in a northern and a southern part as the United Kingdom of the Netherlands was*. I do think there would still be tensions. I doubt the Flemish (and yes I do mean Flemish) upperclass would accept Dutch as a language. I doubt the Dutch protestant will accept the influence of the catholics (who are a majority now). So still lots of trouble ahead. The Dutch Republic will probably be relatively unstable and only a minor part of European politics. This will probably change once industrialisation start and the country becomes richer (money can solve a lot of problems).


*which reminds me, what happens to Luxemburg? A Personal Union is out. I doubt this Republic would be able to go toe on toe with Prusiia, so if Prussia still wants the forts of Luxemburg, I guess it would end up mostly Prussian.
 
It effects if it still gets Belgium, that means there is no United kingdom of the Netherlands, and there is no Congo Free State, and WWI, if they play their cards right

Ok,
So the former Dutch Republic and the Austrian Netherlands are united in a Federation?
Like the USA or as both states were run before 1795?


Please do not start with Congo or WW 1 there still 99 years to cover so there a LOT of cards to shuffle.
Do understand there was no senior power like the Netherlands occupying the Belgians or some sort. This misunderstanding was the card the revolutionary and Jacobites played in 1830. There was only unequal representation.
 
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Ok,
So the former Dutch Republic and the Austrian Netherlands are united in a Federation?
Like the USA or as both states were run before 1795?


Please do not start with Congo or WW 1 there still 99 years to cover so there a LOT of cards to shuffle.
Do understand there was no senior power like the Netherlands occupying the Belgians or some sort. This misunderstanding was the card the revolutionary and Jacobites played in 1830. There was only unequal representation.

Let’s say that the Dutch Republic is restored like the one in 1795, only difference that the Austrian Netherlands, or Belgium are intergrated and given represention. Another different that everyone says, that there wouldn’t be a Stadholder, or at least a stadholder that isn’t from the House of Orange-Nassau. They would have to play their cards right and have Waloonians Catholic representation
 
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