De Gaule Throws His Lot In With Vichy And Petain!

I know that the anglosphere and especially the US hate de Gaulle but calling him a treator is crossing the line. Vichy killed the french republic and they didn't even hide it with the banning of every republican symbol even on the coins the mention République Française was removed.
We could say all we want of de Gaulle but he did not betray his country.
To be fair I admire what he did even if he made some mystake (who didn't). Saying Vichy was legitimate is borderline apologist.
 

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Well to be fair a bunch of defeatist traitors had seized power in a palace-coup & removed their president from office.They then accepted terms peace-terms with Nazi Germany that virtually disembowelled France.
No, there was no coup of any form. Reynaud resigned and President Lebrun asked Petain to form a government since he was the only person who could rally any support. Petain sent delegates to negotiate an armistice with the Germans. There was little else to do since more than half the country had been overrun by them and there was no significant remaining French forces. You can criticise the decision, but Petain was the legitimate authority and de Gaulle, by his actions made himself a traitor to France for the next two and a half years.(and a good thing he did too, just a shame he wasn't a particularly successful traitor in that time.)
The Vichy regime crossed that line even before the peace deal with Hitler was signed due to their defeatism, undermining the war-effort and the border-line coup that brought Petain to power
Nicely mixing up exactly who did what. And again, no coup.
I know that the anglosphere and especially the US hate de Gaulle but calling him a treator is crossing the line.
I don’t know where you’ve got the idea that the ‘angloshpere’ hate de Gaulle but it is hardly relevant, if anything de Gaulle hated the English and especially the Americans; he could forgive slights, but he was never able to forgive a favour. And as I pointed out before de Gaulle was indeed a traitor, denounced as such by the five other French generals who were in England at the time of France’s capitulation and who insisted on returning to France. This is not to say he was doing the wrong thing, it’s just what his status was. And as I quoted before:

‘Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.’

De Gaulle is a hero because the allies won, otherwise history would remember him as a traitor.
Saying Vichy was legitimate is borderline apologist.
We were pointing out Vichy’s legal status was as the legitimate successor to the Third Republic, that does not reflect approval for the Vichy regime. It is worth remembering that the United States government continued to recognise the Vichy government as The French government even after they war at war with Germany and even when they landed in North Africa, and the British government recognised the need to have discrete contacts with Vichy as well, something that infuriated de Gaulle.
 
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