during G20 conference in berlin yesterday, we saw leaders of both koreas attending the meeting. President Moon Jae-In of South korea and DPRK's First Chairman of NDC, Kim Jong-un. DPRK is known for very strong economy, despite private property being outlawed. and republic of korea, along with japan, is known as capitalist powerhouse of asia. it is 20th richest country in the world, and south is 19th richest country in the world. how will world look like if North Korea was way poorer? and south korea was way richer?
DBWI: widen the economic gap between South korea and north korea.
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Maybe North Korea doesn't adopt a version of the Chilean Synco/Cybersyn program after it's success in Chile? The switch to computerized planning in the DPRK probably saved it's economy from collapse.
I admit so, threat of DPRK, although we have a functioning democracy, there are surge of far-right movements here, similar to europe.
Perhaps have aid from the USSR cut off somehow? Even now North Korean trade is centered on its communist neighbours.Before it joined the WTO and liberalised the DPRK was totally reliant on the USSR for food. Perhaps some international incident between China and the USSR results in trade being disrupted with the DPRK for a while.
The other way is for the Korean War to flare back up. Not much economic growth from an irradiated hole.
The other way is for the Korean War to flare back up. Not much economic growth from an irradiated hole.
Too ASB. USSR wouldn't cut off trade with communist neighbors. and Liberalized? do you call a country that still has Gulags and forcing its citizens to worship kim dynasty liberalized?
Sino-Soviet relations haven't always been so good, if North Korea was forced to pick a side during the 1970-90's then I could see the economic fallout being pretty devastating. North Korea's biggest trade partners have always been China and the USSR.
I don't mean liberalised politically. DPRK is as much a dictatorship as the USSR. I mean economically the DPRK has opened up a lot over the last few decades. Abandoning Juche was massively important in promoting economic growth. Perhaps we have our POD? What if Juche was never abandoned?
But USSR didn't force people to worship their general secetary and USSR abolished gulag system in 1952.
and DPRK didn't exactly abandon Juche, but they changed its interpretations.
and DPRK didn't exactly abandon Juche, but they changed its interpretations.
True. Though while Kim is still worshipped...how much power does he really have now? Real power in the DPRK is in the hands of the Generals and the Technocrats - Kim's essentially become a living flag to salute: they wheel him and the family out on special occasions to wave and give speeches, while they get on with running the country.
Which is a good thing. North Korea's an autocratic nation that cracks down on dissent, and does indeed have gulags, but at the same time it's essentially the same as the USSR: as long as you don't criticise the men at the top and recite the Party line at appropriate moments, then they leave you alone. If the Kims were still running the show rather than being figureheads, it could have been far worse. You might have seen all manner of things becoming offences...
OOC: So while people might be thrown in the gulag for criticising the government, nobody's being executed for immorality.
Kims could have absolute power if Top party members Ri Ul-sol, Jang Sung Taek, and many didn't risked their lives to strip Kim il sung and Kim jeong il of their powers in 1987, the same year South was democratized.
I think it was because that program was part of DPRK's nuclear program.