WI Battleship Yamato not sunk by torpedoes launched from U.S.S Samuel B. Roberts in the battle of Samar. Causing the Japanese to rout.
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Ramontxo
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A I suppose you mean the Yamato.
B Taking account of the amount of damage the Yamato took in "Ten Go" before sinking I heavily doubt a single submarine could do it. Maybe a very lucky strike with four or five torpedoes hitting one side of the ship. But It would have to be a very, very lucky sub
B Taking account of the amount of damage the Yamato took in "Ten Go" before sinking I heavily doubt a single submarine could do it. Maybe a very lucky strike with four or five torpedoes hitting one side of the ship. But It would have to be a very, very lucky sub
Yamamoto was a Japanese Admiral and the man who planned Pearl Harbour and Midway, he was shot down in 1943.
Yamato (the name of the largest ethnic group of Japan) was a battleship was sunk in OTL in 1945.
Which one do you mean?
McPherson
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Previous posters covered the war criminal shot down by P-38s.
Like the USS Archerfish? There is actually a good chance that working 1944 era heavyweight Mark 14 or 26 torpedoes in side impact salvo (about 4 of them all told), could mission kill and force a beaching or scuttle of the Yamato. She probably would never see home again if she had been hit in the Palawan Passage by the USS Darter or USS Dace.
As I recall Archerfish was very lucky; Shinano didn't have her watertight doors installed.
Regards,
McPherson
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The torpedoes rip into the float bubble. That was proof of crippling no-return to home that the example supplies. Shinano went down fast. But even so, Musashi, which had a trained crew and competent damage control by Japanese standards. was similarly defeated by "puny" air dropped fish (about a dozen) which had about 1/2 of the punch of a Mark 14 torpedo's warhead.
Regards.
Especially if instead of spreading them out try for a cluster hit, this could overwhelm the torpedo protection system...
Three torpedoes could ensure that any ship wouldn't make it home, if they landed in the right spot. Sinking it, however, might have been another issue.
Or to take the OP's question as the basis, assuming that there was a very lucky shot:
The sinking of the Yamato by the destroyer escort was one of the miracles of modern warfare, even if the disputed hit from USS Johnston did in fact hit. However, assuming that the hits still happen, but that Roverts didn't roll three critical hits, Yamato is significantly damaged--possibly crippled and immobile, but in no short term danger of sinking.
The pride of the Imperial Navy can't be abandoned to her fate; that is unthinkable. Instead, at least one of the other heavy ships would try to take her in tow. While Taffy 3 runs, Yamato is retiring at some five knots or so, while every plane and submarine that can be mustered starts to converge on the location. The losses for the Japanese navy may will include a second battleship and/or a pair of cruisers.
There is no doubt that losing both of the mightiest battleships in the world in such a short time crippled not only the navy's ships, but its spirit. Perhaps if Yamato had made it clear, if the torpedoes had missed, then the commading admirals wouldn't have committed sepuku, either by traditional methods or by shooting themselves multiple times with rifles. It's even possible that the phrase, "assisted suicide" would never have entered the English language.
Or to take the OP's question as the basis, assuming that there was a very lucky shot:
The sinking of the Yamato by the destroyer escort was one of the miracles of modern warfare, even if the disputed hit from USS Johnston did in fact hit. However, assuming that the hits still happen, but that Roverts didn't roll three critical hits, Yamato is significantly damaged--possibly crippled and immobile, but in no short term danger of sinking.
The pride of the Imperial Navy can't be abandoned to her fate; that is unthinkable. Instead, at least one of the other heavy ships would try to take her in tow. While Taffy 3 runs, Yamato is retiring at some five knots or so, while every plane and submarine that can be mustered starts to converge on the location. The losses for the Japanese navy may will include a second battleship and/or a pair of cruisers.
There is no doubt that losing both of the mightiest battleships in the world in such a short time crippled not only the navy's ships, but its spirit. Perhaps if Yamato had made it clear, if the torpedoes had missed, then the commading admirals wouldn't have committed sepuku, either by traditional methods or by shooting themselves multiple times with rifles. It's even possible that the phrase, "assisted suicide" would never have entered the English language.