DBWI: WI Russia had revolted?

What if Russia had revolted during the First World War, and how can this happen? I mean, I think we would have lost the second, and the reformist Alexei wouldn't have become Tsar, but I simply can't see any plausible way how this can happen. What are your opinions?
 

The Vulture

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Dude...actually....it may be hard for u.....but there was a revolution in Russia during first world war.

Really? Could you elaborate, I don't think I've ever heard about it.

I know Communism was popular among Russian intellectuals in that period, perhaps if they had some sort of popular leader they could have gotten enough support for a few riots or something. Past that, Russia is just too stable politically.
 
Dude...actually....it may be hard for u.....but there was a revolution in Russia during first world war.

DWBI: Double Blind What If. Basically, it's from an alternate timeline where something that happened in our world didn't happen. Thus, this thread is someone from a world where the October Revolution didn't happen, asking if an October Revolution was possible and what it would have looked like.

OOC: This is a DBWI, newbie.

Now, now, be nice. He's only got 33 posts.
 
Really? Could you elaborate, I don't think I've ever heard about it.

I know Communism was popular among Russian intellectuals in that period, perhaps if they had some sort of popular leader they could have gotten enough support for a few riots or something. Past that, Russia is just too stable politically.

He's probably thinking of Krasnoshchyokov's Mutiny in Vladivostok in 1920. It was a minor footnote that lasted about 6 weeks.

(OOC note: That date's on purpose! WWI now extends at least as long as into 1920...)
 
It was surprising Germany lasted as long as it did. Say Germany did a bit better and and knocked Russia out early... anywhere between 1916 and 1918. I think the returning troops from Russia may be of use to any sort of revolution. After all, many of them come from poor families.
But the morale boost from Russia winning the war probably gave some time to Tzar Nicolas II to abdicate his thrown for his son, Alexei Nikolaevich, Tsarevich of Russia, who was only 18 when he took the thrown in 1922. If it wasn't for his (his adviser's) reforms, there may have very well been a serious threat to the stability of Russia.
His father was also exonerated from the large deaths he saw under him when his son resided over the Treaty of Versailles, and then again over the Treaty of St. Petersburg (which as we know partitioned the Ottoman Empire). With Russia's old and most threatening rivals being knocked out of the world stage for good, the people of Russia were able to accept the time required for the political and economic reformation of their country.


OOC: How was that. It was my first DB I think.
 
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Well, here in italy we HAD a socialist revolution, and it is not as bad as you speak about it.
Comrade Mussolini seized the power in '22 along with his Red Shirts, chased away the king, and swept away a lot of wrongs.
We're not exactly living in the Worker's Paradise we had been promised, but the situation of the Repubblica Sociale Italiana has improved a lot

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Well, here in italy we HAD a socialist revolution, and it is not as bad as you speak about it.
Comrade Mussolini seized the power in '22 along with his Red Shirts, chased away the king, and swept away a lot of wrongs.
We're not exactly living in the Worker's Paradise we had been promised, but the situation of the Repubblica Sociale Italiana has improved a lot

Way to be trolling. If you were in Italy at this point, you wouldn't have a computer... at least an internet connected to the outside world.
 
mailinutile2, it couldn't have been worse than the Democratic People's Republic of Japan. :::Shudder:::

We hear some right horror stories down here in the Federal Republic of Japan.

I'm just glad Debs beat that commie Cannon and that dirty fascist Huey Long back in the crucial election of '38.
 
Comrade Mussoli's adviser, what's his name... (ooc: Vladimir Iljitj Uljanov) Lenny Blank were born in Russia. I know he is often said to be Swedish because of his mother, Maria Alexandrovna Blank, and the connection to the Scandinavian civil war during the first world war but... what if he settles in Russian Suomen tasavalta (sometimes called Finland) 1907 instead of former Kingdom of Sweden (the eastern part of the Scandian republic)? He might be a good adviser to any charismatic revolutionary leader in Russia.

Thinking about making a N00B timeline about him griping the power of a socialist party in Russia and lading a revolution in the 20's to be succeeded by a ruthless dictator who wins world war two fore Socialist Russia. I love russo wanks.
 
What abotu that new UK PM , Mosley?

Better than Dear Leader Makiko Tanaka. Kakuei Tanak was bad enough up north, but his daughter is just a fruit cake. Just check out the wiki page on the "Bullet Train". :eek:

Thank goodness for PM Ishihara!

(OOC: Good dog! I've finally said something positive about that horrid racist scoundrel Ishihara!)
 

Anaxagoras

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I still see no way in which Russia could have "revolted" against anyone. They were not under any kind of foreign domination, and the idea of revolting against their own czar simply doesn't make any sense to me at all. They're not French, you know.
 
For a moment there, I thought you were taling about the "People Power" Revolution of 1990, which brought some democratic reforms to Russia. I didn't think there was that type of political discontent until at least the 1940s. I remember reading about the Cossack Revolt in 1942, and I also know about the Baltic States Rebellion in 1953.

Would the United States still be in a Cold War with the European Socialist Union (ESU) starting in 1948? If so, then the United States might not survive past 1962.....
 
People Power Revolt? Well I know the Kadist government was unpopular but they were democratically elected and the Tsar legal powers are clearly defined and limited. Whatever the socialist Russia is and was fully democratic in the same manner as Britain. The Cossacks are always restive and opposed the Tsars reforms to the hosts which meant they could no longer treat the peasants living in the Don as helots. The ''Baltic States rebellion'' was a few Scattered riots started by Communist agitators, and were swiftly broken up.

Still Tsarist Russia has some things to answer for in 1919 the new Tsar passively allowed Baron von Sternberg to launch an expedition to conquer Mongolia. The horrors of the ''Bloody Baron's'' rule over Outer & Inner Mongolia are still felt many decades on (indeed, I'm told the US author Frank Herbert based his ‘’Baron’’ character on von Sternberg) to say nothing of his horrific butchery of the Chinese when he intervened in the Great Sino-Japanese War. Fortunately Russian intervention in that conflict in 1943 was able to drive the Japanese from their ill goten gains and restore Russia’s interests in the region.
 
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