DBWI: WI Richard Nixon hadn't been assassinated on 22/11/63

The California Governor was going to make a speech at the Trade Mart when he was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald. What would the effects on the US political scene had been had Nixon lived?

OOC: Oswald tried to assassinate Nixon in Dallas IOTL but his wife locked him in the closet until he calmed down.
 

The Vulture

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He might have turned out to be President someday- he certainly had the drive.

A Nixon presidency might have been interesting- the man was such a hardliner he couldn't have done anything but made the Cold War worse.

Also, we wouldn't have to put up with all those annoying conspiracy theorists who claim Oswald was put up to by the Mafia, or Castro, or Kennedy, or any of that nonsense.
 
He might have been, but his one shot would have been the the 64 election. I don't think that America was ready to elect a man who would've put the US in Vietnam. No doubt a Vietnam War would prevent the USSR from collapsing in 83.
OOC: My knowledge of this era is minimal correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I guese he could have ended up as President, but I think his only real chance was in 1960. After that, no major American party has ever nominated the same person more than once for President. Stevenson was the last one to pull that off, and he never got elected.

Eeven so, he probably would have been a very influencial person in the Republican Party after his time as Governor was over. Maybe he ends up in either the Agnew or the Reagan administration as SECDEF or something, but I don't see hime as President.
 
Also, we wouldn't have to put up with all those annoying conspiracy theorists who claim Oswald was put up to by the Mafia, or Castro, or Kennedy, or any of that nonsense.

Open your eyes, man! There's PLENTY of evidence to backup the theory that Joe and Bobby Kennedy hired Oswald to kill Nixon.

There's eyewitness testimony from a former Secret Service agent and a former hired hand at the LBJ Ranch that back up the story that Bobby Kennedy landed at the ranch in an army helicopter on October 17, 1963 and met with Oswald.

They saw Nixon was proving to be a competent governor, and they feared Nixon's candidacy and his supposed "Southern Strategy" (especially considering JFK was losing a lot of southern support because of his Civil Rights Bill). Even without Nixon and his Southern Strategy in 1964, Kennedy lost Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and South Carolina to Goldwater.

Listen to Coast to Coast AM With Hillary sometime on the radio or online. The Nixon Assassination is one of Hillary Rodham's favorite topics!
 

The Vulture

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Oh, you conspiracy theorists. All the evidence points to Oswald being a deranged loner with visions of grandeur. We'd know more if he hadn't been killed in that car wreck while being transferred to state custody. And I bet you think the Chinese faked their 1977 moon landing, too.

OOC: :D
 
I love conspiracy theorists for the same reason I like reading about Glenn Beck. Not angry, just ROFL at the utter lack of reason. ;)

OOC: RFK might've had Nixonian tendencies (~3000 wiretaps, highest pre-PATRIOT), but not a Marcosian penchant for EJ.
 
Oh, you conspiracy theorists. All the evidence points to Oswald being a deranged loner with visions of grandeur. We'd know more if he hadn't been killed in that car wreck while being transferred to state custody. And I bet you think the Chinese faked their 1977 moon landing, too.

OOC: :D

That's silly! Not only did the Chinese go to the moon in '77, they weaponized it while they were up there! What do you think shot our space shuttle out of the sky in 1982? Oh, NASA can blame O Rings and ice all they want, but I know the truth!
 
Back on topic please.

OOC: Chinese moon landing in 1977? Please. :rolleyes::rolleyes: This isn't Superpower Empire here, just a Dallas POD.
 

The Vulture

Banned
OOC: Sorry, I was just trying to have a little fun with it.

IC: Anyone know what he thought of Vietnam? He was a respected enough figure that he might have influenced the public's thinking on it once it started getting serious, at the very least. And if he hung on till the mid-70s, same goes for Korea.
 
Anyone know what he thought of Vietnam? He was a respected enough figure that he might have influenced the public's thinking on it once it started getting serious, at the very least. And if he hung on till the mid-70s, same goes for Korea.


I'm not sure, but there would not have been the rioting and "Hey, Hey, JFK, how many kids did you kill today!" of our timeline.

In many respects the stress of Vietnam broke Kennedy's health, which was never that good to begin with...
 
Ah well, that caused innumerable problems later on. After 1966, it was rumoured that AG Bobby was the de facto President. Of course, that was only a prelude to his own distinguished yet authoritarian Presidency...
 

Cook

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He probably was robbed of the Presidency by Joseph Kennedy’s massive buying of votes for his son.
But that should be an indication of how unpopular Nixon was even then, not how popular that womanising drug taker Kennedy was.
Nixon was in incumbent vice-President of an extremely popular President at a time when the United States was at the height of it’s power. That should not have been a close election.
But after that his popularity seemed to decline the more often he spoke.
I really don't believe that the American people would have elected a man who was so paranoid that he could easily have slipped into mental instability no matter how brilliant he was.
After all, who votes for a guy that refers to himself in the third person?
It’s absurd.
 
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