DBWI : Why, oh why, did the LOTR film trilogy had to suck... so hard !

Damn that inapt hack director Jack Peterson to the fires of Mount Doom ! :mad:

His LOTR movie "adaptations" were an abomination crossed with a breed of utterly bad travesty ! Anyone agree ?
 
I disagree, the movie follows the story line pretty close.
To bad it didnt follow the entire story line.
Why do you think it "Sucked so hard"?
 
Well at least we have the Prequels to Star Wars to counterbalance
They were pretty awesome. I mean sure that Jar Jar character was bad, but he was barely in the first one and they were wise not to but him in number two.
 
Got to agree, George Lucas knows what he was doing with the whole prequel Trilogy--you really feel sorry for Anakin after the Jedi kill Shmi for being a "witch" even though she's done nothing wrong. And of course, the whole Padme romance collapsing that horribly.

Lucas has gone very far to make Anakin a legitimately human character; and in a way, its all much more clever than the original trilogy--better dialog, and a story that seems cleverer and more insightful. I've got to admit, RotJ is probably the worst of the Star Wars movies by a good margin...
 
Yeah, Lucas really did a great job of building up Anakin's character so that, even though we know he's eventually going to fall to the Dark Side and become Vader, we can't help but genuinely like him and sympathize with his struggles. The scene where Anakin falls is incredible; on an intellectual level you know he's turning evil, yet Lucas plays the scene so that it seems so right for him to join Sith.

Back on topic, by far the worst thing they did in the new LOTR trilogy was getting rid of Merry, Sam, and Legolas and replacing them with female equivalents. Sure, Tolkien did have a bit of a gender imbalance with an all-male Fellowship, but scrapping three major characters to replace them with made up female ones so that the movies would be PC was a bad idea, as were the horrible romantic subplots that spawned out of this.
 
I thought the trilogy had about ten minutes of cool stuff in it, but was otherwise a giant pile of predictable crap. By predictable, I mean that Jackson took the safe choice in every case. Who should Gandalf be? I know, let's go out on a limb and get Ian McKellen! I think the scope was just beyond Jackson's abilities.
 

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I thought the trilogy had about ten minutes of cool stuff in it, but was otherwise a giant pile of predictable crap. By predictable, I mean that Jackson took the safe choice in every case. Who should Gandalf be? I know, let's go out on a limb and get Ian McKellen! I think the scope was just beyond Jackson's abilities.

I really would have thought that Mckellan would be Saruman, he'd already had experience at playing an old bad guy.
The major downside to the movies were probably the lack of reality, every battle scene was CGI, either that or it was all real and really bad to try and make the main actors seem real.
 
OOC: Either you really hated the OTL films or this is another case of someone not knowing what a DBWI is.
OOC: Why do you have to hate something to make a DBWI about hating something? Isn't if much more fun when you role play someone you aren't? I think you're the one who isn't getting what a DBWI is.

IC: Man the LOTR trilogy sucked! The acting was horrible, the CGI was horrible, and it managed to destroy a lot of childhood memories of Tolkien's masterpiece. And yeah, the Star Wars trilogy was awesome. Have anyone seen the new Clone Wars movie? I heard it did a really good job tying in the 2nd and 3rd prequel movies.

OOC: This is what I mean Pervex: I loved the LOTR trilogy, and hated the Star Wars prequels. I'm just roleplaying.
 
OOC: Either you really hated the OTL films or this is another case of someone not knowing what a DBWI is.

I apologize. I know I messed it up in the beginning and this thread is not really DBWI, as I had originally intended. :( I even posted a reply right after I realized the mistake, telling the admin to delete the whole thread, but once the discussion started, I simply left it as it is.

I think the best solution would be to lock the whole thread. It just doesn't work in it's current state and is unnecessarily confusing.
 
Damn that inapt hack director Jack Peterson to the fires of Mount Doom ! :mad:

His LOTR movie "adaptations" were an abomination crossed with a breed of utterly bad travesty ! Anyone agree ?

It wasn't that bad. The Gollum puppet was an advance over the old Yoda puppet from Star Wars (I liked the Balrog puppet as well). Having the Ring Wraiths appear as normal humans made the whole thing grounded and understated - the books were just too over the top. And that chick they had who played Strider was hot!

But I didn't like how Jackson hit us over the head with his contemporary environmentalist message. -- Mount Doom is supposed to be like a volcano not like a factory with giant smoke stacks. The first movie also spent way too much time on that whole Tom Bombadil thing.
 
The worst thing is Frodos heroism. In the book Frodo was to be partly taken over by the ring. In the movies Frodo acts like Conan, for example when he faces the spider and kills it.

The best thing imho in part two and three was the sieges(ooc: think so irl also)
 
OOC: Why do you have to hate something to make a DBWI about hating something? Isn't if much more fun when you role play someone you aren't? I think you're the one who isn't getting what a DBWI is.

OOC: That's actually funny and here's why (I used to be VoCSe). Bottom line, I know exactly what a DBWI is. For this to be one the title should have been "DBWI the LOTR film trilogy didn't suck... so hard?". The whole point of a DBWI is that it's a WI that really happened and the replies in the thread are from an ATL where it didn't. So for anyone reading the title who understands the concept it seems like Petike really believed the trilogy sucked, which is what drew me here. Am I getting through to you, wise one?
 
Yeah, Lucas really did a great job of building up Anakin's character so that, even though we know he's eventually going to fall to the Dark Side and become Vader, we can't help but genuinely like him and sympathize with his struggles. The scene where Anakin falls is incredible; on an intellectual level you know he's turning evil, yet Lucas plays the scene so that it seems so right for him to join Sith.

I for one loved the depiction of the epic Clone Wars as such, more than the personal story about Anakin. The Republic's forces holding out against the white-armoured menace of the Clonemasters' armies on Saleucamii was really the strongest scene in the entire trilogy, with grizzled veterans and frightened conscripts fighting the impersonal masked menace; trade out the fancy rayguns and that could've fitted into a serious war film. The cloned enemy really was scary, and it made a huge impact to see how, after the wars, the Empire itself took over them as their Stormtroopers; that's the epitome of becoming the monster you fight. Thank God Lucas hired professional scriptwriters; you realise that his original idea was to have the clones fight FOR the Republic from the onset? They were to be the good guys!

Back on topic, by far the worst thing they did in the new LOTR trilogy was getting rid of Merry, Sam, and Legolas and replacing them with female equivalents. Sure, Tolkien did have a bit of a gender imbalance with an all-male Fellowship, but scrapping three major characters to replace them with made up female ones so that the movies would be PC was a bad idea, as were the horrible romantic subplots that spawned out of this.

Ugh, don't remind me. The worst was smacking together Arwen's and Eowyn's characters, though; apparently it wasn't cinematic enough for Aragorn to love a woman who wasn't at the forefront busting heads...:rolleyes:
 
Yeah it was odd that he JUST HAD to take out Legolas, Sam and Merry... yet kept in Tom f'n Bombadil. Not to mention that relationship that develops between Gimli the Dwarf and that other female elf character.... I mean seriously.... wtf??

At least George Lucas did a great job on HIS trilogy. The clone wars portion especially was wicked awesome, like the big battle between the Mandalorian Supercommandos and the Jedis... was like a fan boys wet dream. Then in came that Grievous character, who just simply OWNED.
 
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