DBWI: Why did Pinplot spread worldwide, and not Association Puntlemich?

ninebucks

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I've been to Prussia, Siam, Phillipton, and Kaapstadt, and I could never find an Association Puntlemich ball in any of the stores. I would always take one with me, and on a sunny day I would go out to a park, and punt, dribble, and toss the thing around for a little while. Inevitably a local would ask what the ball was, and I would explain the game as best I could, then the Smuckett comparisons would start, and I would explain the two-point pass, how to put a spin on the ball, and how it's the biggest sport in the Provinces.

Pinplot spread around the UP during and after the Civil War, then around the world after the Third Global War. Take Japan. Why is Pinplot so popular, but the AP is unheard of?

OOC: Apologies where they are due :D.
 
I've been to Prussia, Siam, Phillipton, and Kaapstadt, and I could never find an Association Puntlemich ball in any of the stores. I would always take one with me, and on a sunny day I would go out to a park, and punt, dribble, and toss the thing around for a little while. Inevitably a local would ask what the ball was, and I would explain the game as best I could, then the Smuckett comparisons would start, and I would explain the two-point pass, how to put a spin on the ball, and how it's the biggest sport in the Provinces.

Pinplot spread around the UP during and after the Civil War, then around the world after the Third Global War. Take Japan. Why is Pinplot so popular, but the AP is unheard of?

OOC: Apologies where they are due :D.

I have absolutely no idea what this is about, but I enjoyed reading it.
 

ninebucks

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I have absolutely no idea what this is about, but I enjoyed reading it.

OOC: Basically, I was reading the baseball/gridiron thread, and, like most sports discussions, it went straight over my head. So I thought it'd be fun to have a similar debate about two completely counterfactual sports, the opportunity being to make these sports seem as random, nonsensical, and self-contradictory as possible.

IC: Personally, I think its because Puntlemich is so dangerous to play. Even casual players can end up with broken bones, arms, shoulders, cocynces...

The only dangers from Pinplot are strained wrists!
 
OOC: Basically, I was reading the baseball/gridiron thread, and, like most sports discussions, it went straight over my head. So I thought it'd be fun to have a similar debate about two completely counterfactual sports, the opportunity being to make these sports seem as random, nonsensical, and self-contradictory as possible.

IC: Personally, I think its because Puntlemich is so dangerous to play. Even casual players can end up with broken bones, arms, shoulders, cocynces...

The only dangers from Pinplot are strained wrists!

I love this.

Of course Puntlemich is dangerous. You think it'd be banned throughout the entire Empire if it wasn't? I mean, even with helmets and spine-guards, you're likely to end up in an infirmery after two or three periods of play.

As for Pinplot's popularity (especially in Japan), I think the combination of minimal equipment needs (pretty-much just the ball), and the little space needed to play in (the street works just fine) are what has propelled it to it's popular heights. All this despite the somewhat byzantine rules of the game.

And don't even get me started on Smuckett (damned Americans!).
 
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I love this.

Of course Puntlemich is dangerous. You think it'd be banned throughout the entire Empire if it wasn't? I mean, even with helmets and spine-guards, you're likely to end up in an infirmery after two or three periods of play.

As for Pinplot's popularity (especially in Japan), I think the combination of minimal equipment needs (pretty-much just the ball), and the little space needed to play in (the street works just fine) are what has propelled it to it's popular heights. All this despite the somewhat byzantine rules of the game.

And don't even get me started on Smuckett (damned Americans!).

You guys don't even know what you're talking about!

I'll bet you've never even played Puntlemich! (OOC: :D )

Personally I find Puntlemich to be a fascinating, entertaining, and rewarding sport both to play and to watch. Sure injuries are more frequent especially in more amateur circles, but they hardly warrant it's ban in Europe.

On an interesting note, it seems a simplified version of Puntlemich (two hand tags replacing tackles, smaller fields, simplified rules) seems to be taking hold not only here but across the world (mostly due to missionaries from the Provinces).

As for Smuckett, that's a great game and one I enjoy as well. You Plinplot players really need to get off your high horses...
 
You guys don't even know what you're talking about!

I'll bet you've never even played Puntlemich! (OOC: :D )

Personally I find Puntlemich to be a fascinating, entertaining, and rewarding sport both to play and to watch. Sure injuries are more frequent especially in more amateur circles, but they hardly warrant it's ban in Europe.

On an interesting note, it seems a simplified version of Puntlemich (two hand tags replacing tackles, smaller fields, simplified rules) seems to be taking hold not only here but across the world (mostly due to missionaries from the Provinces).

As for Smuckett, that's a great game and one I enjoy as well. You Plinplot players really need to get off your high horses...

Well, the problem with the simplified Puntlemich is that the middle-backers totally domiinate the games, making the goal-guardians somewhat unnecessary. And, frankly, that takes a lot of the excitement out of the game for me.

As for Pinplot vs. Smuckett: it sure as heck wasn't Smuckett that Pope Joan XI was playing witht he Dalai Lama in that Newsweek photo last year, was it?
 
Well, the problem with the simplified Puntlemich is that the middle-backers totally domiinate the games, making the goal-guardians somewhat unnecessary. And, frankly, that takes a lot of the excitement out of the game for me.

As for Pinplot vs. Smuckett: it sure as heck wasn't Smuckett that Pope Joan XI was playing witht he Dalai Lama in that Newsweek photo last year, was it?

You play simplified Puntlemich with middlebackers!?

That's odd, every simplified Puntlemich game I've seen eliminated the middlebacker position entirely. With only 6 players on each team (two of them being goal guardians) the game moves a lot quicker and is actually quite enjoyable. But then again if you don't know what you're doing it can be rather slow and/or frustrating so I see your point.

Oh and I believe you mean't antipope Joan. And as for that farce between her and the Dalai Lama I hardly think that warrants any merit on religious or sporting grounds. The fact is that Smuckett leagues are popping up across the world and the game's growing rapidly.
 
You play simplified Puntlemich with middlebackers!?

That's odd, every simplified Puntlemich game I've seen eliminated the middlebacker position entirely. With only 6 players on each team (two of them being goal guardians) the game moves a lot quicker and is actually quite enjoyable. But then again if you don't know what you're doing it can be rather slow and/or frustrating so I see your point.

Oh and I believe you mean't antipope Joan. And as for that farce between her and the Dalai Lama I hardly think that warrants any merit on religious or sporting grounds. The fact is that Smuckett leagues are popping up across the world and the game's growing rapidly.

You're right about middlebackers in simplified Puntlemich. I guess because of the embargo, we've not been able to see very many actual games being played by professionals. We've been making some of it up as we go along, and seem to have missed the points you cite. Will bring this up with the boys at the next esbat. Although discussion has been moving toward a Pinplot Tournament after the harvest this fall.

And, I'll offer my apologies for bringing spiritual issues into a temporal discussion. However, I will point out: even though they've rebuilt the Vatican, Avignon has been fully recognized by the Ecumenical Council at the League of Nations for over thirty years now. But, I shouldn't have brought up the schism in the first place as it is apparant that many are still a bit sensitive about that whole issue. Man will probably walk on the Moon before that whole thing is settled. I wonder if you could play Pinplot on the Moon?
 
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