DBWI, Who are YOU Voting For

Who are you voting ofr (if at all) in the up coming British Imperial/Commanwelath Par


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spitfiremk1 said:
you have surlry heared what happend when they annexed the southern half of Teaxes, massacre, rape and loot. Now we just went in thier to jus tthe terrorists, but went in thier becuse they want to annex it into Baja.

OOC:... The Southern half of Texas was taken over by Mexico. For convenience sake, this half is below the Rio Grande and is not shown yet. (It should be shown as a British claim line inside Mexico.)

Spitfire, my mistake, I don't think this is quite right. Mexico are allies with us now but they did annex the southern half of Texas. And we did kick them out, no? The Empire simply doesn't roll over and play dead!!! Or did Neville Chamberlain say, you're welcome to it? :confused:
 
Spitfire, my mistake, I don't think this is quite right. Mexico are allies with us now but they did annex the southern half of Texas. And we did kick them out, no? The Empire simply doesn't roll over and play dead!!! Or did Neville Chamberlain say, you're welcome to it? :confused:

Mexico are our allies, but slighty untrustworthy and sleasy these day's (Think occupation of "New Mexico".)
 
Finaley, that sedy bastard has been beaten. :D. If only it was us, not the commos.

(OOC: the reason i come across as lazy and unprofesional is becuase i am useless with a keyborad, plus i've got school, so i'm always in a rush:eek:)
 
OOC: Now, some more explaining to do.

The reason i origionaly incorperated korea into the Chinese Empire, despite the referances to them as Marxists, is becuase althoguh they are still part of the chinese empire, there is quite a bit of regional automany, with freedom of speech and freedom of press.

But recently, there has been a renewed campaign to for independence from Peking (it is still commanly called that by westerners), with newspapers and journalists providing the loudest voices. And in this world, for obvious reasons, anyone who has intentions of "Real" independence in this world is likely to be termed a "Communard", "Marxist" or at least in Australia "A Bloody Commo" (;)), because there is a natural suspision that people who want full indepencende are somehow in leuege with the Socialist Bloc (Think OTL "You are either with us, or against us" attitude),
which is true in some cases, but a falsehood in many.

Now, i would like to explain a bit about socity in this world.

In the Free world (Yes, it is realy free), soceity can be summed up as technologycy about the same as OTL, but with the social starndards and customs that resemble the 50's.

For example, school is, well, more old school to say the least. In Commanwealth countries, Class rooms will still have a portrait of the Monarch (in this case George VII) and their consort (In this case Queen Mary of Greece) . Teachers still have the authority and corperal punishment is still in place, but these days only for Serious Offences (IE, smoking, very bad swearing, sexual harrasment ETC), and students know there place. Most, if not all schools in the commanwelath, including OTL US, will generaly have a British style school unifrom.

Technology does exist, but generaly for "Work" reasons, At Home for example, the PC will probably only be used for practical reasons (IE emails, internet shopping, buisness ETC), and most familys will watch TV together, if they have a TV at all. And why would you need to, in this world, doing things as a community-family is more common place, and parents are generaly not firghtend about what there kids do, as the streets are safer and "Drugs", are considered either for street people or "Stainers" (this TL's equivilant of Hippes, but not exactly the same) and Socialists (both frowned upon in the more conservative dominions).

As mentioned above, People are more closely knit and big on "Community". People generaly Respect each other, Racialism (self explanitory), Sexism and Homophobia, althoguh they do exist, are not as prevelant, as most in the commanwelath at least belive that all races are equel, but western civilisation and democracy is the norm.

Terms like "Gay"(in it's modern context) and "Poofter" don't exist, as anyone who is Gay that is generaly just called a Homosexual, although the term "A George" or "A Georgie" is somethimes used (alluding to the suspision that TTL King George V was a Homosexual), but most people tend to keep quiet about there sex life anyway.

Women, although they "Know there Place" (Femenism nether existed, although some "Female Liberationists" exist) are not hugely discriminated against, IE, some women hold or have held senior positions, like Jennifer Evert (TTL equivilant of Margeret Thatcher), and Ailsa Timberlake, former Prime Minister of New Zealand, who was famous for presiding over NZ's 1990's economic boom.

Back to community, as mentioned, technology is less widespread for leasure, so a typycly in Australia, after school, instead of going home and Playing on a console, kids might go over to the nearest Rugby or Criket Club (AFL doesnot exist, VFL does, but is considered a striclty "Victorian" passtime:rolleyes:) , watch a bit of the sport (or in some cases partisipate themselves, sports clubs and sport are important in the commanwealth) or sit down and catch up with firends and family and maybe eat a meat pie and cup of tea (Tea is a universal commanwelath beverege. "Soft Drink" does exist, but Coffee is considered "Foreign" or "Socialist" as coffe is considered the universal drink of the socisalist bloc), Then hop on a Tram and head home.

At home, you can either do your homework, or help with dinner, which is eaten together at the table,where issues and events are disscused, then it's either TV together, or singing around the Paino (most self respecting households will have a paino in the house), Then Shower and Bed.

Then on weekends (3 days in TTL not 2), activities like family picnics and outings are popular. Camping, attending sports matches, fishing, boating (In Brisbane where i come from, most people will have a Tinnie, or a flat bottom tin boat with outborad motor for those who don't know), shopping (Girls still can't get enough of it) and similar activities are all popular. Church on sundays is still an important occasion, and Pubs are the local watering holes and entertaining centres.

Outside the Home, National Service is still the norm, but does not include just the military, there are various other ways to serve your country.

In all, soceity is very Conservative by todays standards, but quite liberal and Domocractic anyway, with Extremes IE Greenies, Facists, Mousalinites or syndicalists (Nazism is non existant), Socislaists and Communists, are all frowend upon by Soceity (Well, in the commanwelath at least).

More opinions and comments welcome, im sorry about the length, but i wanted to convey how poeple in this world think and live as opposed to more political Jargon. :eek:
 
OOC: Now, some more explaining to do.

The reason i origionaly incorperated korea into the Chinese Empire, despite the referances to them as Marxists, is becuase althoguh they are still part of the chinese empire, there is quite a bit of regional automany, with freedom of speech and freedom of press.

OOC: That explains things.

But recently, there has been a renewed campaign to for independence from Peking (it is still commanly called that by westerners), with newspapers and journalists providing the loudest voices. And in this world, for obvious reasons, anyone who has intentions of "Real" independence in this world is likely to be termed a "Communard", "Marxist" or at least in Australia "A Bloody Commo" (;)), because there is a natural suspision that people who want full indepencende are somehow in leuege with the Socialist Bloc (Think OTL "You are either with us, or against us" attitude), which is true in some cases, but a falsehood in many.

OOC: Ah, but according to General Mung Beans, the Korean press smeared the valiant actions of HM's Armed Forces in Kenya during the Uprising.

Now, i would like to explain a bit about socity in this world.

In the Free world (Yes, it is realy free), soceity can be summed up as technologycy about the same as OTL, but with the social starndards and customs that resemble the 50's.

For example, school is, well, more old school to say the least. In Commanwealth countries, Class rooms will still have a portrait of the Monarch (in this case George VII) and their consort (In this case Queen Mary of Greece).
IC: Now how did Camilla Parker-Bowles become Queen Mary of Greece???:confused: It's a loooong story to do with someone named Aristotle Onassis, the Second...:p

Teachers still have the authority and corperal punishment is still in place, but these days only for Serious Offences (IE, smoking, very bad swearing, sexual harrasment ETC), and students know there place. Most, if not all schools in the commanwelath, including OTL US, will generaly have a British style school unifrom.
IC: A good thing we still have strict discipline in our public and government schools! Imagine classrooms where teachers are not allowed to discipline the pupils for threat of Solicitoirs' lawsuits! It would be dreadful, I tell you, and would lead to societal collapse...

Technology does exist, but generaly for "Work" reasons, At Home for example, the PC will probably only be used for practical reasons (IE emails, internet shopping, buisness ETC), and most familys will watch TV together, if they have a TV at all. And why would you need to, in this world, doing things as a community-family is more common place, and parents are generaly not firghtend about what there kids do, as the streets are safer and "Drugs", are considered either for street people or "Stainers" (this TL's equivilant of Hippes, but not exactly the same) and Socialists (both frowned upon in the more conservative dominions).
IC: Well, British Louisiana is an odd creature, we've had Social Democrats since the late 1920s -- although they've been a conservative lot, until this RESPECT business started showing up after the recent additudinal liberalisation of the 1990s (you've been able to get me out of my turtle-shell :D ). But like the rest of the Empire/Commonwealth, we have only minor drugs problems as you've said...

As mentioned above, People are more closely knit and big on "Community". People generaly Respect each other, Racialism (self explanitory), Sexism and Homophobia, althoguh they do exist, are not as prevelant, as most in the commanwelath at least belive that all races are equel, but western civilisation and democracy is the norm.
IC: That's because people know how to behave on public transport and in public venues. If we didn't have that, there'd be no sense of Community; Racism, Sexism and Homophobia would be rampant; and society and civilisation would be on the verge of collapse!

Terms like "Gay"(in it's modern context) and "Poofter" don't exist, as anyone who is Gay that is generaly just called a Homosexual, although the term "A George" or "A Georgie" is somethimes used (alluding to the suspision that TTL King George V was a Homosexual), but most people tend to keep quiet about there sex life anyway.
IC: Here in British NA especially in British Louisiana, we're using "Gay" "Poof" "Poofter" and "Queen" for homosexual recently due to our additudinal liberalisation. The reason why the term "Gay" became to be used as such is because the nightclub, "Le Tour Eifell en Nouvelle-Orleans" (a quarter-scale replica of the Parisian monument) has long been advertised as "New Portsmouth's Gay Spot" since the 1970s and in the last fifteen years became mixed heterosexual/homosexual, then all-homosexual. Now it's going back to mixed, due to greater acceptance oddly enough due to David Duke and his seannanigans. "Queer" has been around for decades ever since those damned Fleet Street rags have been spewing venom about the King. And thanks in no small part to Mr. Duke and his venom, our Commonwaelth Parliament is mulling a Civil Unions bill that essentially states, "Legally, Marriage is a Civil Union between a man and a woman, but Civil Unions shall be open to same-sex couples as well as opposite-sex couples." Aren't we getting up in the world???;)

Women, although they "Know there Place" (Femenism nether existed, although some "Female Liberationists" exist) are not hugely discriminated against, IE, some women hold or have held senior positions, like Jennifer Evert (TTL equivilant of Margeret Thatcher), and Ailsa Timberlake, former Prime Minister of New Zealand, who was famous for presiding over NZ's 1990's economic boom.
You're right there, women in the workplace get typically 90% of the wages of men for the same work. It could be worse: in France, women get only 60% as men do for the same work. Is it any wonder Female Liberation is really big over there???

Back to community, as mentioned, technology is less widespread for leasure, so a typycly in Australia, after school, instead of going home and Playing on a console, kids might go over to the nearest Rugby or Criket Club (AFL doesnot exist, VFL does, but is considered a striclty "Victorian" passtime:rolleyes:) , watch a bit of the sport (or in some cases partisipate themselves, sports clubs and sport are important in the commanwealth) or sit down and catch up with firends and family and maybe eat a meat pie and cup of tea (Tea is a universal commanwelath beverege. "Soft Drink" does exist, but Coffee is considered "Foreign" or "Socialist" as coffe is considered the universal drink of the socisalist bloc), Then hop on a Tram and head home.
IC: Here in BNA we're very big on rugby and football (OOC: "soccer"). Texas, I've heard, though, is really big on their version of "football" which I call sissy-rugby, because it's rugby, really, but the players wear helmets and all manner of protective body-gear (but that sport could become brutal due to a false sense of safety). Here we like cafe au lait: coffee tempered with chickory and warm milk (inherited from the days of French and Spanish dominion). We usually have it in the mornings for breakfast with beignets (tiny rectangular pillows of fried dough) and at morning coffee-break with sausages and cheeses. Luncheons and afternoon Tea are strictly taken with tea, or water in the case of the noonday meal. I guess it's been our coffee-drinking to cause us to become more liberal these days.:p

At home, you can either do your homework, or help with dinner, which is eaten together at the table,where issues and events are disscused, then it's either TV together, or singing around the Paino (most self respecting households will have a paino in the house), Then Shower and Bed.
Same here.

Then on weekends (3 days in TTL not 2), activities like family picnics and outings are popular. Camping, attending sports matches, fishing, boating (In Brisbane where i come from, most people will have a Tinnie, or a flat bottom tin boat with outborad motor for those who don't know), shopping (Girls still can't get enough of it) and similar activities are all popular. Church on sundays is still an important occasion, and Pubs are the local watering holes and entertaining centres.
Despite the heat and humid, close, air, we tend to outdoor activitiues as well. But we don't have Tinnies, we have Pirogues (wooden rowboats which appear to be a cross between a dingy and a canoe). Our shopping is still in city and town centres: we don't like the idea of an enclosed "mall" or a roadside "strip" shopping development -- too planned, soullless and impersonal. Everybody still goes to Church here, too, despite the additudinal liberalisation. Religion is a constant, except in France and in Socialist Countries. Here, due to the strong Irish minority, our pubs are called Taverns. And we don't have entertainment centres, our entertainment venues are in the city and town centres.

Outside the Home, National Service is still the norm, but does not include just the military, there are various other ways to serve your country.

In all, soceity is very Conservative by todays standards, but quite liberal and Domocractic anyway, with Extremes IE Greenies, Facists, Mousalinites or syndicalists (Nazism is non existant), Socislaists and Communists, are all frowend upon by Soceity (Well, in the commanwelath at least).
"What you got in Australia is, in a lot of aspects, very similar to what we have here. But "Common-sense" Socialism we don't frown upon here; though a lot of us don't care for George Galloway's brand even though some do. It's too bloody Marxist.

More opinions and comments welcome, im sorry about the length, but i wanted to convey how poeple in this world think and live as opposed to more political Jargon. :eek:
Any comments on my comments.
 
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OOC: Latest British Empire 2009 Map!

- It shows Korea as an autonomous republic within Imperial China.
- It shows Morocco to be all-Frog.
- It shows the lost section of South Texas that Neville Chamberlin (not OTL N. Chamberlin, but another one who stood for and became BEP PM after Margaret Thatcher served out her second five-year term and decided not to run for a third) ceded to the Mexicans after they invaded and annexed half of Texas. The only good the Empire and British Texans got out of that was only half the Rio Grande valley was lost, and not all of it, as Mexico had wanted. (This sowed the seeds for the Kenyan Uprising:eek:; which, in turn, sparked a vote of no confidence in the PM by the Imperial Parliament. Chamberlin had to step down and BEP MP John Cameron took his place and, as PM, sucessfully quelled that revolt.)

"Land for Peace" has just an odious stench in TTL as "Peace in Our Time" does in ours.
 
Well Lady's and Gentlemen of Empire, today is result day. Would anyone be able to tell us the results here, as covergdge is a bit late Down Under.
 
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