DBWI: Who Are You Supporting In the 1860 US Presidential Election

Who Are You Supporting In The 1860 US Presidential Election?


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Wolfpaw

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IC: I'll be voting for Mr. Douglas come the fall, as every sensible man should. Not only is he a skilled politician, but I believe that only he can peacefully resolve the current secession crisis and restore balance to the Union. The same can hardly be said for that boor Breckinridge and his pack of jackals, much less for that oaf Lincoln and the rest of those rotten and radical Republicans.

OOC: Obviously with the advantage of hindsight and a more enlightened worldview I'd vote for Lincoln, but I thought I'd put myself in the mind of somebody from the actual period.
 
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mowque

Banned
I wish Free Soil was putting up someone this year. Most likely have to go with Lincoln then.
 
I wish Free Soil was putting up someone this year. Most likely have to go with Lincoln then.

I don't know these guys seem like free soil on steroids[*] -- I'm pretty excited about their homestead proposals, myself :D

I'll be voting for Mr. Douglas come the fall, as every sensible man should. Not only is he a skilled politician, but I believe that only he can peacefully resolve the current secession crisis and restore balance to the Union.

Oh come off it -- the only problem with "balance to the Union" is that the Slave Powers have been given a free hand to roll over the rest of us, because every time someone wants to do something for the Free White Working Man, those aristocrats throw a tantrum.

Well no more! This November, me, my neighbors, and hundreds of thousands -- hell, probably over a million -- Americans like us are going to elect a man who actually respects hard work and is going to fight for us.

And if you still want to object to "balance to the Union" -- in all honesty, does anyone here honestly think South Carolina or anyone else is going to abandon this country just because for once they didn't get their way? I seriously doubt it...

OOC: *and yes, I am aware that this is an anachronism :rolleyes:
 
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Doesn't it depend on where you live?

Basically, if I lived in the North I'd vote for Douglas, if in the South, for John Bell, who was the main alternative to Breckinridge in most Southern states. It's probably a futile gesture, but I'd vote to avoid a split if it could be avoided, and keep on doing so to the bitter end.
 
I voted Lincoln for the same reason John did. I was working the double jack for the railroad when I heard Lincoln debate Douglass and I decided Douglass was a caricature. Lincoln is the one who will help us settle the west and ensure we workers don't have to compete with slave labor for work.

On a sidenote my cousin lives in St. Louis and is saying the Germans are just as irrate about slavery as we are. I am predicting a Lincoln landslide.
 
I voted Lincoln for the same reason John did. I was working the double jack for the railroad when I heard Lincoln debate Douglass and I decided Douglass was a caricature. Lincoln is the one who will help us settle the west and ensure we workers don't have to compete with slave labor for work.

On a sidenote my cousin lives in St. Louis and is saying the Germans are just as irrate about slavery as we are. I am predicting a Lincoln landslide.

Exactly, besides even if Blacks are inferior to Whites I think they should have some rights. They are probably not intelligent enough to vote but they should be paid for whatever menial jobs they are capable of. OOC: Remember this is from someone in 1860 NOT my beliefs.
 
I'm voting Lincoln. Slavery is an evil blight on our great republic. Even if the negro is inferior, no man should live in chains. The slave holders are spitting on Jefferson's hopes by not letting the institutuion die. Lincoln has promised to follow the precedent the Founding Fathers set with the Ohio territory by stoping the spread of slavery to the western territories, so he gets my vote.


As to the people who think South Carolina might try to leave over this? They might, but it'll be a repeat of nullification, none of the other states will follow and Lee will march the federal army into Coloumbia and that'll be the end of it.
 
I'm voting Lincoln. Slavery is an evil blight on our great republic. Even if the negro is inferior, no man should live in chains. The slave holders are spitting on Jefferson's hopes by not letting the institutuion die. Lincoln has promised to follow the precedent the Founding Fathers set with the Ohio territory by stoping the spread of slavery to the western territories, so he gets my vote.


As to the people who think South Carolina might try to leave over this? They might, but it'll be a repeat of nullification, none of the other states will follow and Lee will march the federal army into Coloumbia and that'll be the end of it.

George Washington as well, but you are right. If South Carolina secedes Federal Troops will march into Coloumbia anfd that will be that.
 
I believe nothing will make the south happy but slavery from coast to coast and from Canada to Mexico, short of that they'll never be pleased, the southerns are crazed they have it set in their heads that Lincoln will be taking their slaves, the man has said over and over his goal is only no more slave states, even getting 90% of what they want they talk openly of leaving the union.

slavery is clearly a great evil and I wish with all my heart some one would come out fully against it, I have never been shown any prof of the Negro being "lesser" than the white man, clearly the Slave shows him self stronger in body and will than the white man every day, and having heard Frederick Douglass speak better than almost any white man I view that the Negro's Mind is healthy and needs only the water of an education to grow and flower
 

Spengler

Banned
Lincoln I may not like that their are Negroes living up in Ohio but their still living here and we shouldn't have to send them back because some Slave owning tryant in Alabama claims he owned their grandpa. Also love how he wants to stop the Europeans from sending cheap imports and putting me out of a job.
 
I'm voting for Lincoln for the following reasons.
1. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we cannot keep calling ourselves a free republic when we practice the institution of slavery. I mean those Autocratic Europeans have banned the practice. If they of all people find it vile then what does that say of our great nation?
2. To hold back the disproportionate power of the slaveholders. For too long have those faux nobility gotten their way time and time again. Congress practically licks their boots, showers them with money, and every time things don't go their way even slightly, they wail and moan like a spoiled child. It's time someone humble them and I think Lincoln might really be the man to do that.
 

mowque

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slavery is clearly a great evil and I wish with all my heart some one would come out fully against it, I have never been shown any prof of the Negro being "lesser" than the white man, clearly the Slave shows him self stronger in body and will than the white man every day, and having heard Frederick Douglass speak better than almost any white man I view that the Negro's Mind is healthy and needs only the water of an education to grow and flower

Now, I'm a Free Soil man, through and through but I don't agree with this stuff.

All these arguments apply to animals as well. Mayhap a ape would be stronger of body to a man? Besides, with all the hard labor, of course they are stronger of body, just as a boxer is more inshape then I (an railroad engineer).
Stronger in spirit? :rolleyes: Who is ruling who?
The average Nergo can't handle such education and even if they did, all it would lead to is race war.

Regardless, Lincoln has my vote.
 
Stronger in spirit? :rolleyes: Who is ruling who?
The average Nergo can't handle such education and even if they did, all it would lead to is race war.

Regardless, Lincoln has my vote.

because the Roman controlled and killed the body of Christ, does that mean Pontius Pilate was Stronger in spirit?
and what base do you have for them not handle education? I have see no case where a educated Negro going mad and killing all the whites he sees, all cases of which I know that the Negro has gone to war against the white man the negroes have been enslaved by said white men.
 
I'm voting for Lincoln for the following reasons.
1. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we cannot keep calling ourselves a free republic when we practice the institution of slavery. I mean those Autocratic Europeans have banned the practice. If they of all people find it vile then what does that say of our great nation?


Actually, if you believe all that you should be voting for Gerrit Smith, not Lincoln.

Lincoln never proposed to interefere with slavery in the states where it currently existed, and even affirmed the constitutional duty to return runaway slaves. He did hope, however, that slavery would die some sort of "natural death" if not permitted to expand.
 
Actually, if you believe all that you should be voting for Gerrit Smith, not Lincoln.

Lincoln never proposed to interefere with slavery in the states where it currently existed, and even affirmed the constitutional duty to return runaway slaves. He did hope, however, that slavery would die some sort of "natural death" if not permitted to expand.

Gerrit Smith has about as much chance of winning as I have swimming across the Atlantic! He is right to vote for Lincoln as of all the candidates that have an actual shot of winning he comes closest.
 
*You Yanks are an ignorant bunch. The whole lot'a you! I just can't understand why ya'll have the right to vote in the first place. Elections ought to be reserved for those with a financial stake - land owners. Whoever thought it was a good idea to give poor landless immigrants the right to vote, ought to be strung up.

My entire financial wellbeing is at stake in this election, and if that polecat Lincoln is elected, he will put my farm, my possessions, and yes, my negroes, at risk.

And how many of you Yanks have even been down here to Louisiana? I know three Yankees who have been to my farm in the last year: my banker, who's a New Yorker, a cotton trader from Massachusetts, and a preacher from Pennsylvania. All three remarked on several occasions that their perceptions of cotton farms and the lives of slaves in Louisiana had changed. They saw how well my family treats our negroes, and how happy they are (for the most part). The preacher and the banker both remarked that our negoes live much better lives than the average Irish immigrant who lives in the slums of New York and works 16 hour shifts in some hellhole of a factory for almost no wages. I consider each of those men to be enlightened, and none are voting for Lincoln.

So what's your man Lincoln gonna do if elected? Turn New Orleans into another New York, where immigrants and negroes work in factories for practically no pay and live in slums that can only be described as hell on earth?

Well fortunately, Lincoln isn't even on the ballot down here in Louisiana, not that he'd get any votes even if he was. No I am voting for my own survival, so I am voting for Breckenridge. Not that I think it will make much difference. Lincoln and his Republicans have thoroughly brainwashed most Yankees into thinking we Southerners are some kind of monsters who are morally bankrupt who want to spread slavery to every corner of this country. But the truth is we just want to be left alone, to be able to make our own decisions that are best for our lives and our families.

Well if Lincoln is elected, we Louisianans will have the last laugh when we secede from the states which want a government that tries to control men's everyday lives and steal his property and livelihood.

*obviously these are not the author's beliefs and thoughts - but those of a typical Louisiana plantation owner in 1860.
 

Spengler

Banned
Hey Louisiana tyrant stop sending your goons into my state and removing residents claiming that you own them. Our Negroes are our own to deal with so stay out. Also you'll leave because for once theres a president who will stand up to your tyranny of the minority?. I've always said Hypocrites deserve a good beating and that is what you'll get if you try it.
 
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