DBWI: Which Reichspräsident did you trust the least about Germany's nukes?

Rumours say that Adenauer indeed thought about firing the Schumacher-II ICBM on Moscow to help the Chinese Republican army at their skirmishes with the Soviets back in 1964. I don't really know, but wasn't there a long line of German presidents who were really insane about the nuke, nearly loving it?

If Braun, Adenauer, Frahm (OOC: Brandt's birthname) or Weizsäcker, they were all very strict on keeping their nuclear force. So who was the worst?
 
Rumours say that Adenauer indeed thought about firing the Schumacher-II ICBM on Moscow to help the Chinese Republican army at their skirmishes with the Soviets back in 1964. I don't really know, but wasn't there a long line of German presidents who were really insane about the nuke, nearly loving it?

If Braun, Adenauer, Frahm (OOC: Brandt's birthname) or Weizsäcker, they were all very strict on keeping their nuclear force. So who was the worst?

This is just a bloody lie. In 1964 the SPD-Opposition and even some "party-friends" fom Adenauers DCP (Deutsche Christliche Partei) spreaded this rumor to force Adenauer to retreat from office. In the end they failed and Adenauer died shortly before the end of his second term in 1967. I think Adenauer reputaion as "Dr. Atom" is undeserved. Okay, he made a mistake with the Field service manual 1950, who gave the Reichswehr unresticted controll of the tactical sub-KT nukes. But this was more part of his ignorance in military questions. He just saw it as a other kind of atterlery.
And he corrected this after the Finland-crisis in 1961.
 
Why? Just surviving Weimar Republic, who became a nuclear power in the 1940th. Why is that ASB?
Yes, especially given that it happened in OTL!
Well, okay, so given some events of history, that isn't proof of it not being ASB, I admit, but still.
OOC: :D
 

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Why? Just surviving Weimar Republic, who became a nuclear power in the 1940th. Why is that ASB?

Brandt, Schumacher and Adenauer beeing so important figures in a Weimar survives scenerio is not convincing.
And naming a nuclear missile after Kurt Schumacher? come on, you can not be serious.

(OK, I admit, I want to provoke somebody into writing a timeline)

NO WAY!
 
Brandt, Schumacher and Adenauer beeing so important figures in a Weimar survives scenerio is not convincing.
And naming a nuclear missile after Kurt Schumacher? come on, you can not be serious.

(OK, I admit, I want to provoke somebody into writing a timeline)

NO WAY!
As said, unlikely things do happen...
OOC: Adenauer is not that implausible, really. After all, being President of the Prussian State Council was a pretty high position, all things considered... since it has already been established that he created a CDU-analogue, which could be in a better position to get the Presidency then Zentrum, not being so Catholic-based, I'd say it's not that unlikely, really.
 
As said, unlikely things do happen...
OOC: Adenauer is not that implausible, really. After all, being President of the Prussian State Council was a pretty high position, all things considered... since it has already been established that he created a CDU-analogue, which could be in a better position to get the Presidency then Zentrum, not being so Catholic-based, I'd say it's not that unlikely, really.

OOC: Adenauer was also at least two times considered as Reichskanzler.
 
Well the 1980s were certainly a much more tense period, with Reichschancellor Kurt Waldheim in 1983, and Michael Kühnen in 1987 in power, the world was certainly forced to the brink of nuclear war, especially after the Kashmir Incident in 1986 or the nuclear reactor incident at Schwarzwald in 1987. For many Americans, we can certainly the "Duck and Cover" drills that were taught to children as young as 5.
 
Michael Kühnen?!

A neo-fascist, openly homosexual maniac in charge of a 1980's Weimar?
That's even too retarded for ASB, it's just so utterly wrong.
 
Brandt, Schumacher and Adenauer beeing so important figures in a Weimar survives scenerio is not convincing.
And naming a nuclear missile after Kurt Schumacher? come on, you can not be serious.

(OK, I admit, I want to provoke somebody into writing a timeline)

NO WAY!

OOC: OK, I admit, for ages I've been thinking about writing a new Weimar Republic Survives TL that maybe erases L-V and takes away a lot of Erhard and Brandt and the presidents I mentioned were from the 'canonic' Weimar World or, like Weizsäcker, a logical extrapolation. For the Schumacher missile, I have to admit that I somehow envy the East Asians for their alternate cherry blossom missile (Sakura) and the Taepo-Dong missiles could easily be replaced with Tong-Il missiles (tong-il = reunification). And I didn't want to call the V-1, V-2, V-3 or whatever. Germany somehow lacks a Pershing... or doesn't it?
 
Michael Kühnen?!

A neo-fascist, openly homosexual maniac in charge of a 1980's Weimar?
That's even too retarded for ASB, it's just so utterly wrong.
OOC: Just remember that stranger things have been said in OTL about Adolf Hitler (e.g. 1/4 Jewish, single testicle, et al.).
 
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