DBWI:What would have have happened if Russia didn't beat Germany

I just want to try out a DBWI

What would have happened if Russia didn't have a overwhelming victory over Germany in WWI and the czarina had hemophilia:confused::confused:
 
Well the Tzar probably would have faced a serious revolution at some point, his people were ready to boil over.

It sounds crazy but winning the war was actually bad for the Russian people as it let the Tzar hang onto his position and thus prevented their society from progressing.

With the support of the rest of the Entente the Russian people could have become a democracy, even if they had kept the royal family as a figure head monarch.
 
Perhaps, it also could have fallen into complete anarchy. It worked out in the end. Around the 1930s the Russians started having a rule of law and by the 1950s something of a constitutional monarchy. Of course today he has more influence then actual legal power.
 
I think WWI would have progressed at least until 1921, unless one side sued for peace earlier (probably the Entente, as the French Front lay mostly in their territory).

Would it still be called World War One? In OTL, it wasn't called that until WWII and WWIII.
 
Germany would have been able to transfer all of their forces to France, perhaps even before the American Expeditionary Force arrived. But as we all know, the AEF arrived too late to make a difference; the east being the the decisive, war winning front.

In this scenario, however, what exactly is the POD? Did it have anything to do with that Lenin guy and the Bolshe-whatevers?
 
Germany would have been able to transfer all of their forces to France, perhaps even before the American Expeditionary Force arrived. But as we all know, the AEF arrived too late to make a difference; the east being the the decisive, war winning front.

In this scenario, however, what exactly is the POD? Did it have anything to do with that Lenin guy and the Bolshe-whatevers?

Who is this Lenin guy? :)
 
I happen to study obscure history, so I can tell you about Lenin. He was a Russian living in exile in Switzerland who wanted to turn Russia communist. The Germans actually sent him to St. Petersburg in a special sealed train in 1917, trying to hurt Russia, but the train crashed on the Switz-Austrian border and Lenin was killed. If he'd actually gotten to Russia, however, the Bolshevicks (Russian communist party) might have actually had a chance to take the czar down. Instead, they spent the next twenty years running a gurellia war out of the Urals.
 
What's so interesting about DBWIs? :confused: We're basically just discussing what happened in OTL anyway.

OOC: It's an exercise in figuring out what people from ATLs would think about the possibilities of what might have happened as a result of an event going the way it did OTL. If you read DBWIs, you'll notice that what people say the results of an OTL event might be aren't necessarily the same results that happened OTL.

Besides that, it's an interesting meta-critique on the futility of AH and how the butterfly effect makes it difficult for us to accurately predict what would happen in an ATL.

(Am I right, everyone? Do I get a cookie for my answer)?
 
I happen to study obscure history, so I can tell you about Lenin. He was a Russian living in exile in Switzerland who wanted to turn Russia communist. The Germans actually sent him to St. Petersburg in a special sealed train in 1917, trying to hurt Russia, but the train crashed on the Switz-Austrian border and Lenin was killed. If he'd actually gotten to Russia, however, the Bolshevicks (Russian communist party) might have actually had a chance to take the czar down. Instead, they spent the next twenty years running a gurellia war out of the Urals.

I thought Lenin was executed by Tsar Nicholas II.

Oh wait, that guy's name was Leon.

As for that Stalling guy, he'd actually been arrested over two dozens times for being a career criminal. Tried for murder, I believe. What a leader he would have made, huh? :eek:
 
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