DBWI: What was your favorite part of World War II?

OOC: This isn't a "DBWI" in the common sense of the term for as we are in an ATL, we're not asking WI's about OTL, but rather simply discussing the history of this ATL where the Central Powers won WW1.

What was your favorite part of World War II?

Mine was not a single battle but the entire Alpine Front where Italian and Austrian troops fought each other for three bloody years almost entirely on skis. The Italian Alpini troops IMO, were to skis what the Mongols were to horses. If the Germans hadn't landed on Sicily and Sardinia, the Italians could've been the only Entente nation to win the war. It would be a victory based entirely on the performance of the Alpini. The Kaiser himself said something like this in a conversation with Emperor Otto after the war.
 
OK, stop being a sick prick.

War is not supposed to be "Enjoyable" in any way, shape, or form. Perhaps you need to reconsider your choice of worlds.

There is nothing glamorous or enjoyable about organized murder of hundreds of thousands, committal of actions that ensure the death of thousands, all so as to crudely force the wills of power to be to enjoy your actions.

MAYBE you like watching people die, but I don't and I suspect most of the world doesn't either. Even if it is a one sided slaughter, you've guaranteed that thousands of children lose a father, or parents lose a son, or losing a husband, a brother. And generally there aren't supposed to be onesided slaughters in the first place.

Please get yourself out of the middle ages and into reality, where you recognize that 15 million people soldiers were killed in this conflict, as well as another 10 million noncombatants. Enjoyable? Favorite? Please. These are the sick words of a psychotic lunatic that has no connection to any of the bad things that ever happened.
 
OK, stop being a sick prick.

War is not supposed to be "Enjoyable" in any way, shape, or form. Perhaps you need to reconsider your choice of worlds.

There is nothing glamorous or enjoyable about organized murder of hundreds of thousands, committal of actions that ensure the death of thousands, all so as to crudely force the wills of power to be to enjoy your actions.

MAYBE you like watching people die, but I don't and I suspect most of the world doesn't either. Even if it is a one sided slaughter, you've guaranteed that thousands of children lose a father, or parents lose a son, or losing a husband, a brother. And generally there aren't supposed to be onesided slaughters in the first place.

Please get yourself out of the middle ages and into reality, where you recognize that 15 million people soldiers were killed in this conflict, as well as another 10 million noncombatants. Enjoyable? Favorite? Please. These are the sick words of a psychotic lunatic that has no connection to any of the bad things that ever happened.

First of all, I hope you realize this is a DBWI from another ATL and we're not talking about the real WW2. Secondly, I mean favorite in the same sense as interesting as in intellectually interesting from the perspective of a historian or military historian, not in the sadistic sense you seem to imply where you think I enjoy seeing people kill each other or suffer atrocities which isn't the case at all.
 
Perhaps, then, this is poor choice of words. But it did not appear to be that way.

As one could probably imagine, I enjoyed the part of WW2 where the USA didn't enter it and sat quietly in the corner, making money. We should do much more of that.
 
Perhaps, then, this is poor choice of words. But it did not appear to be that way.

As one could probably imagine, I enjoyed the part of WW2 where the USA didn't enter it and sat quietly in the corner, making money. We should do much more of that.

I can't really see where you got that perspective from the words I typed. You seem to have used the word "Enjoyable" a lot in your first response, I don't know where you got that and judging from this second response here, you seem to have the wrong attitude when it comes to looking at DBWI threads like these.
 
The problem mostly stems from what seems to be a personal amusement of a "Favorite Front" that also involves "Bloody Fighting".

Yes, I know this war didn't happen, but its also important to recognize that you've never claimed to be a historian looking back on the conflict or what your own character's PoV on this situation was. Are you just a historian writing a documentary or are you an Alt-WW2 veteran that "enjoyed" the fighting in an unsound way?

Perhaps I'm a bit sensitive of this kind of thing--but also consider that what you wrote was rather inhuman--three years of war, the Kings have a laugh afterward. It all stems from a mythos of war that I assure you doesn't exist except in myth. There might be a time for heroism in war, but there is no defense for starting a war without a just cause.

That cause, in WW2, was lacking in general.
 
The problem mostly stems from what seems to be a personal amusement of a "Favorite Front" that also involves "Bloody Fighting".

Yes, I know this war didn't happen, but its also important to recognize that you've never claimed to be a historian looking back on the conflict or what your own character's PoV on this situation was. Are you just a historian writing a documentary or are you an Alt-WW2 veteran that "enjoyed" the fighting in an unsound way?

Perhaps I'm a bit sensitive of this kind of thing--but also consider that what you wrote was rather inhuman--three years of war, the Kings have a laugh afterward. It all stems from a mythos of war that I assure you doesn't exist except in myth. There might be a time for heroism in war, but there is no defense for starting a war without a just cause.

That cause, in WW2, was lacking in general.

You are pretty sensitive to this kind of thing. We are in an "Alternate History" forum, not in a sadistic freakshow forum so when we talk about "our favorite parts of wars", you have to abandon the assumption that we're gonna talk about the war in the sense of people dying and suffering instead of in the sense of clever tactics being used or causes being championed in the battlefield.
 
Also, I think there is something not right with the way you interpret and associate words with each other, with "favorite" and "bloody". If you look at what I said, my character didn't like the "Alpine Front" because it was bloody but because he admired the skill of the "Alpini" troops who he compared to the Mongol cavalry. Also, how do you know the Kaiser and Emperor Otto were having a laugh about the war and not contemplating seriously what could have been their defeat.

And think about it, even if this were about the real WW2, you could say that your "favorite part" was the Battle of Berlin, Stalingrad or the liberation of Paris not because of how many people died but because these were turning points in the war against Nazism or possibly the Battle of France, not because of the Nazi's brutal occupation afterwards but because of their effective use of "Blitzkrieg" as a tactic.

Also, since we are in an AH forum, don't you think that all of us have some interest in history and that we are all "historians' or "military historians" in our own little way. If I said something like "Remember how the Alpini used their ski gear to stab the Austrian bastards in the eye and then watched them bleed to death in the snow afterwards", then you could call me a sick prick.
 
The problem mostly stems from what seems to be a personal amusement of a "Favorite Front" that also involves "Bloody Fighting".

Yes, I know this war didn't happen, but its also important to recognize that you've never claimed to be a historian looking back on the conflict or what your own character's PoV on this situation was. Are you just a historian writing a documentary or are you an Alt-WW2 veteran that "enjoyed" the fighting in an unsound way?

Perhaps I'm a bit sensitive of this kind of thing--but also consider that what you wrote was rather inhuman--three years of war, the Kings have a laugh afterward. It all stems from a mythos of war that I assure you doesn't exist except in myth. There might be a time for heroism in war, but there is no defense for starting a war without a just cause.

That cause, in WW2, was lacking in general.

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