DBWI: What made Britain, Scandinavia, and Russia different from the rest of Europe?

In the OTL, the Habsburgs were able to use the Austrian Empire to unify the German States and the Italian States, they also used the Austrian Empire to successfully liberate the Balkans and Poland from Islamic and Russian rule respectively, while Spain was able about to give the Habsburgs control over Portugal.

When they recreated Rome, all of those areas came mostly enthusiastically. France obviously had a million conditions, but even they eventually joined. The Near East and Tripoli obviously didn’t come willingly, but given Britain and Russia’s Empires they could hardly cite that as a reason.

Given that the Netherlands and Ukraine came voluntarily I’m not sure that the Orthodox/Protestant/Catholic divide can be cited.

Was Nationalism more developed in Britain and Scandinavia? Was it related to money?

I imagine that all three areas had different reasons, but why?

Also, why were Russia’s list of conditions rejected while France’s were accepted?
 
In the OTL, the Habsburgs were able to use the Austrian Empire to unify the German States and the Italian States, they also used the Austrian Empire to successfully liberate the Balkans and Poland from Islamic and Russian rule respectively, while Spain was able about to give the Habsburgs control over Portugal.

When they recreated Rome, all of those areas came mostly enthusiastically. France obviously had a million conditions, but even they eventually joined. The Near East and Tripoli obviously didn’t come willingly, but given Britain and Russia’s Empires they could hardly cite that as a reason.

Given that the Netherlands and Ukraine came voluntarily I’m not sure that the Orthodox/Protestant/Catholic divide can be cited.

Was Nationalism more developed in Britain and Scandinavia? Was it related to money?

I imagine that all three areas had different reasons, but why?

Also, why were Russia’s list of conditions rejected while France’s were accepted?

England, between its trade networks and massive focus on a navy, couldn't be conquered by the Austrians/Romans, whereas the French could have been after a long enough war (leading the Kings/Prefects of France to agree to submission with their autonomy preserved). The same is true to some extent for Russia due to their massive strategic depth. And these two countries--being driven by circumstance to be anti-Roman--had a major incentive to keep Scandinavia the same so that Austria/Rome couldn't divide and conquer at the Skagerrak.
 

Dolan

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Britain is definitely an oddity, while their Traditional Political Capital is located on Islands close to Europe, their true economic and military power since late 19th century come from their gigantic, populous, resource-rich, and industrialized North American Domain.

London might be where the Royal Family traditionally resides and British Islands might be their original home, but it was no secret that New York controls the lifeblood of the British Empire. Of course, they deem Habsburg offer to join and recreate Proper Holy Roman Empire as an insult. Have you seen how Prime Minister Lincoln end up publicly torn up the Habsburg letter of invitation?
 
Britain is definitely an oddity, while their Traditional Political Capital is located on Islands close to Europe, their true economic and military power since late 19th century come from their gigantic, populous, resource-rich, and industrialized North American Domain.

London might be where the Royal Family traditionally resides and British Islands might be their original home, but it was no secret that New York controls the lifeblood of the British Empire. Of course, they deem Habsburg offer to join and recreate Proper Holy Roman Empire as an insult. Have you seen how Prime Minister Lincoln end up publicly torn up the Habsburg letter of invitation?

The only reason the Britannia hasn't been relegated into an unsinkable carrier for the Empire is because the homeland has managed to miraculously balance the Western British Empire against the Eastern British Empire. The politicians in New York and New Delhi would rather have London as the traditional capital then bow to the other.

The Dominion's MPs and Merchant classes may have control over the Americas, but the Eastern British Empire especially the Raj's landed princes command the Indian Ocean with impunity.
 
All could be explained by the history, the Habsburg create a huge empire by dynastic marriages but they had to fight France during century they tried to submit their opponent during the Sun wars, however France win against the Habsburg but the price was too high, millions of death, massive debt, period of trouble, Louis XV know that France couldn't survive to another war and accepted the Autrian proposal to transform the Holy Roman Empire in a Roman Empire in exchange of a lot of concession.

Netherlands knew they couldn't survive against the Roman empire so they decided to come in their terms, Ukraine was liberated/annexed.

Against this huge empire Scandinavians, Russians, Britains allied so they weren't conquered, they didn't want to join this empire and now these countries with their own culture refuse to lose their sovereignty.
 
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It's also important to note that the French crown was consistently weakened at this point after the twin disastrous losses in the 30 Years War and the Fronde; Louis XV needed Habsburg help protecting his throne from his rebellious nobles. Ultimately joining the HRE with concessions gave Louis as a vassal of the Habsburgs more power than he ever had as independent King of France. The same can't be said of the Stuart, Vasa, and Romanov monarchies, all of whom were more powerful than the Habsburgs because they could build their empires around a single ethnicity.
 

Dolan

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The same can't be said of the Stuart, Vasa, and Romanov monarchies, all of whom were more powerful than the Habsburgs because they could build their empires around a single ethnicity.
Umm, while the Vasa did successful in uniting Scandinavia, and although technically multicultural, Russians being the overwhelmingly dominant Romanov supporters (that they could be said as single ethnicity Empires). The Stuart-Franklin Empire definitely supported not only by Anglo-Saxons (that actually further split into three that is Americans, Englishmen, and Australians), but almost every race in British Empire unanimously support the crown.

Have you look at how British army composition being made of, sure Americans made the bulk of their Redcoats, with Hindoo Shock Troopers, Australian Skirmisherz, Amerindian Light Cavalry, Zulu Lancers, Scottish Grenadiers, supported by English Artillery. They are definitely the sight to behold as everyone fight shoulder to shoulder for the crown of British Empire.

Sure, the Habsburg again and again subverted the Irish, but they didn't count. There's a reason why Ireland house hundred thousands of Hindoo and Zulu garrison.
 
Umm, while the Vasa did successful in uniting Scandinavia, and although technically multicultural, Russians being the overwhelmingly dominant Romanov supporters (that they could be said as single ethnicity Empires). The Stuart-Franklin Empire definitely supported not only by Anglo-Saxons (that actually further split into three that is Americans, Englishmen, and Australians), but almost every race in British Empire unanimously support the crown.

Have you look at how British army composition being made of, sure Americans made the bulk of their Redcoats, with Hindoo Shock Troopers, Australian Skirmisherz, Amerindian Light Cavalry, Zulu Lancers, Scottish Grenadiers, supported by English Artillery. They are definitely the sight to behold as everyone fight shoulder to shoulder for the crown of British Empire.

Sure, the Habsburg again and again subverted the Irish, but they didn't count. There's a reason why Ireland house hundred thousands of Hindoo and Zulu garrison.
What I'm more getting at is that the Habsburgs were and remain the rulers of a conglomerate of states, each of which have their own laws; meanwhile, Britain, Scandinavia, and Russia were all one state structure each. Plus, Britain was definitely not a multicultural colonial empire when its incorporation into the Habsburg Empire was in question.
 
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