DBWI: What if no Schwarzenegger presidency?

What if the 28th amendment wasn’t passed in 2005 making Arnold eligible to become president in 2008? What events would need to happen for this to occur? Could president Gore successful in preventing senate democrats from making this a bi-partisan issue? Or would you have to make either McCain win in 2004, or Bush win in 2000 for this to happen? How would no immigrant president (and no prezinator) affect modern day culture?

OOC:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Opportunity_to_Govern_Amendment

OOC: There was never the slightest chance this would pass. It was just too clearly--in timing, sponsorship, etc.-- an Arnold-for-president thing. (Republicans said "well, Jennifer Granholm could use it, too", but nobody took that very seriously.)

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"I don't think we should move precipitously," Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D- Calif., said when Hatch's proposal came before the Senate Judiciary Committee last month. "I've never had anyone approach me and say you have to do this because it's so important."

Partisan politics also could play a role. Democrats are likely to be unwilling to open the way for a popular Republican such as Schwarzenegger to run for national office.

"The U.S. Constitution and its amendments aren't there to satisfy the ambitious goals of a politician," said Bob Mulholland, a consultant for California's Democratic Party. "America should be very cautious on amendments designed for one person."

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Amend-for-Arnold-campaign-launched-Web-site-2635267.php
 
Would we have fewer non R/D Senators without Arnold?

We've got the Independent former Democratic vice President Joe Lieberman.
Obama the soon-to-be independent.
Independent Angus King.
Libertarian Lisa Murkowski after she got primaried in 2010.
Constitution Party Senator Buchanan (blegh) in Virginia.
Constitution Party Senator Sarah Palin.
Independent Larry Pressler in Maine.
Independent Bernie Sanders.
Independence Party Senators Dean Barkley and Tim Penny.
Independent Charlie Crist.
Depends on who fills his shoes. If it’s someone who can balance the Republican Party then you have the members of the constitution party in Congress just be republicans. But as long as you have the Obama camp, and the sanders camp both existing at the same time the Dems will remain split ideologically.
 
OOC: is this better? His running mate is Bill Nelson,who he took in an unsuccessful attempt to calm down the social liberals of the party (his real preference was Joe Manchin)

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Looking back,its pretty horrifying to realize just how close that election was, if NC had just had two more votes per county,than Casey would of gotten it and we would of had a split electoral college. It's also frustrating to me, that states like Louisiana or Texas didnt flip to casey (im a Casey supporter even attended the DNC as a Part of a young citizens for Casey group) we we're we're also close in Iowa and Masatuchetts. If we had taken those states,Casey be sitting in the oval right now.
 
OOC: is this better? His running mate is Bill Nelson,who he took in an unsuccessful attempt to calm down the social liberals of the party (his real preference was Joe Manchin)

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Looking back,its pretty horrifying to realize just how close that election was, if NC had just had two more votes per county,than Casey would of gotten it and we would of had a split electoral college. It's also frustrating to me, that states like Louisiana or Texas didnt flip to casey (im a Casey supporter even attended the DNC as a Part of a young citizens for Casey group) we we're we're also close in Iowa and Masatuchetts. If we had taken those states,Casey be sitting in the oval right now.

Iowa was close because of how weak a campaigner Campbell was (good thing he had the much more exciting Haley running with him). Young folks in Des Moines and the farmers rallied for Campbell because of his support for trade and his social policies.

The MAGOP is a strong strong machine, hence why every Governor they've had since Weld has been GOP with the exception Deval Patrick who was pretty much a liberal republican anyway. It was quite the upset when Campbell took the state and dragged NH and RI along for the ride.

CT going red was more to do with local factors I think. Governor McMahon and Senators Schiff and Shays proved that statewide GOP candidates can serve the state well and the knock-on effect was the state going red for President. Same goes for Mike Castle in Delaware, Christie and Chiesa in NJ, etc.

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OOC: Looks good to me. Maybe a Red Tennessee considering how Casey would be strong in Appalachia but Northeast Tennessee has always been a strong GOP region. It even voted for Roosevelt in 1912.
 
Another factor which damaged him was that horrible convention mess,as someone who was their i can personally say the battle really divided the party, especially after that massive three-way fist fight between Casey Obama and Sanders delegates. Having those emails showing Both Casey And Obama trying to cut a deal with the Chairman with her keeping both camps out of the loop on the fact she was talking to the other guy hurt pretty bad. It also pissed off Sanders to no end, i actually almost got into another fistfight about it with an angry Sanders delegate.
 
Another factor which damaged him was that horrible convention mess,as someone who was their i can personally say the battle really divided the party, especially after that massive three-way fist fight between Casey Obama and Sanders delegates. Having those emails showing Both Casey And Obama trying to cut a deal with the Chairman with her keeping both camps out of the loop on the fact she was talking to the other guy hurt pretty bad. It also pissed off Sanders to no end, i actually almost got into another fistfight about it with an angry Sanders delegate.
This always confuses me, but why didn’t the police do anything when they were all there to protect people?
 
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