DBWI what if Julius Caesar was killed and Rome stopped being a merchant republic

OTL Julius Caesar became king in all but name however he granted many powers to the senate. He also brutally enforced Roman Customs and religion making it nessacary to be part of the empire. But what if he didn’t compromise with the senate and did not conduct his ethnic and culture and religion cleansing.
 
OTL Julius Caesar became king in all but name however he granted many powers to the senate. He also brutally enforced Roman Customs and religion making it nessacary to be part of the empire. But what if he didn’t compromise with the senate and did not conduct his ethnic and culture and religion cleansing.

The massive massacares and persecutions Caesar commited in the east were, in retrospect, both a major success for humanity and a major failure for Caesar. Without the development of the Egalitarian school of philosophy by survivors of the Athenian sack, we would live in a much darker world I would reckon. Also, the immense growth in quantity of art and literature in italy following caesar's death can be directly attributed to his conquest of Germania, Dacia and Mesopotamia Major and the wealth it brought to the home province. and, of course, his execution by the rampaging horde in the Interbellic revolt gave the death-bound first republic a last chance to reform, a chance it took very well.
Had he died, we might've seen the first republic stagnate and collapse or even form into a more stable rule of tyranny, like the ancient eastern kings. thankfully, Caesar was both what the first republic needed and the catalyst for its destruction - when Julius Caesar died, he left behind a world ready to leave the disastrous First Republic behind.
 
I'd have to agree with SpaceRome, Caesar took advantage of the weaknesses of the first Republic and used them to break the institutions, but not the ideal, of the Republic. You have to remember the fine distinction between the mottos of the First and Second (and all subsequent) Republics.

1st - For The Senate and People of Rome
2nd - For The Senate of the Roman People

The rise of the Egalitarian Movement post Athens really did sow the seeds of the Second Republic, and is why the Athenian Senate was largely considered Father of Democracy whilst Rome is the Mother of Republicanism. Both traditions were vital in creating the precursor to the Federal Senatorial Republic we see today.

Vitally we saw the abolishment of Imperium, which isn't really understood today, but was effectively immunity from prosecution.
 
If Caesar had been assasinated we may well have seen him be used as a martyr and a Roman Empire form. I even made a map of what I imagine It could have ended up holding, even if t does seem a little weird (since I’m not great with geography)
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If Caesar had been assasinated we may well have seen him be used as a martyr and a Roman Empire form. I even made a map of what I imagine It could have ended up holding, even if t does seem a little weird (since I’m not great with geography) -snip-

Interesting, that sits somewhere between the borders of the Second and Third Republics in size. Notably Germania Orientis seems to be outside the remit. I'm curious, during the Third and Fourth Republics we saw the people of the Steppe occasionally have membership of the Federal Senate or Stratocratic Council respectively - are they part of this Empire or not?
 
Interesting, that sits somewhere between the borders of the Second and Third Republics in size. Notably Germania Orientis seems to be outside the remit. I'm curious, during the Third and Fourth Republics we saw the people of the Steppe occasionally have membership of the Federal Senate or Stratocratic Council respectively - are they part of this Empire or not?
The people of the Steppe are not part of the Empire.
 
oooph, that sounds like it'll be ugly. What do you reckon?
Yeah in the timeline I’ve started writing about Rome becoming an Empire Rome has a harder time incorporating Those peoples because they couldn’t offer them seats in the senate like in OTL, and the attitude of the Empire as opposed to the Third and Fourth Republics made it harder to develop a good relationship beforehand like in real life, I’m imagining they might become enemies in this timeline, and in that TL I’m doing a Major warlord from them is going to do a lot of damage to Rome, I’m going to call him Attila the Hun.
 
If Caesar was killed I can see a civil war (maybe more than one?) between his killers and his loyalists. That sounds like it would be messy as hell, and I can see the winner of said war becoming sort of a strongman, which would cripple the long history of Roman republicanism. Maybe said strongman would abolish the senate? THAT would be a shock to the system for sure.
 
I can see the Jews revolting in this ATL w/o some representation in the Senate.

Depending on when Caesar dies, I can see at least 2 guys continuing where he left off: Marcus Antonius & Octavian.

I'm betting on the former but if the latter pulls of a "Roman Empire" that'll be a more interesting TL.
 
I can see the Jews revolting in this ATL w/o some representation in the Senate.

Depending on when Caesar dies, I can see at least 2 guys continuing where he left off: Marcus Antonius & Octavian.

I'm betting on the former but if the latter pulls of a "Roman Empire" that'll be a more interesting TL.
I am planning on having Octavian establish the Empire but so far I’m in the middle of a period of a temporary Second Triumverate, with the other members being Mark Antony, and Lepidus and their in a civil war with Cassius and Brutus (who survived here because the plot to kill Caesar succeeded, although I’ll stop talking about my TL now)
 
Brutus was highly critical of some of Caesar's policies, so I think he'll join a conspiracy to take Caesar if the latter crossed a dangerous line.

Well, Brutus was lucky those far-east nomads did the dirty job for him. :p
 
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