DBWI: What if Clinton was never assassinated 2.0

We know that former Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton suffered the same fate as RFK did in 1968, When he was assassinated on June 5th, 1992 as he won the Democratic primary in Missouri, then George H.W. Bush would go on to win the Presidency over Democratic nominee Jerry Brown and plunge the nation into the Depression we are in right now,

May I ask you my fellow Americans, what would have happend if Clinton didn't get assassinated?
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Well, you have to remember that Bush was still extremely popular at the time. I can't see any Democrat really beating him. Granted, Clinton was significantly more charismatic than Brown so maybe he could keep it closer, but I still think we see a Bush victory with all that entails. It might be interesting to see what a longer lived Clinton would do in his later years though.
 

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You also have to take Ross Perot into account. When it was Bush vs Brown Perot dropped out because he was afraid of Brown but he might not if Clinton was running, in which case he could divide the conservative vote enough to swing the election to Clinton.
 
You also have to take Ross Perot into account. When it was Bush vs Brown Perot dropped out because he was afraid of Brown but he might not if Clinton was running, in which case he could divide the conservative vote enough to swing the election to Clinton.

Meh, I don't think Perot was ever really serious about it anyway. It was just a (admittedly very expensive) publicity stunt. The only way I can see him actually running is if the Dems nominate someone truly unelectable and he can run as the sole alternative to Bush. If anything, a Clinton candidacy would make him less likely to run, not more.
 
We know that former Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton suffered the same fate as RFK did in 1968, When he was assassinated on June 5th, 1992 as he won the Democratic primary in Missouri, then George H.W. Bush would go on to win the Presidency over Democratic nominee Jerry Brown and plunge the nation into the Depression we are in right now,

May I ask you my fellow Americans, what would have happend if Clinton didn't get assassinated?
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OCC: Nice, aside from the "Bush plunged the nation into the depression we're in now" nonesense. Bush plunging the nation into a 2 decade-long depression :eek: during his 2nd term is ASBish and spoils a good DBWI.
 
then George H.W. Bush would go on to win the Presidency...and plunge the nation into the Depression we are in right now

It's really hard to blame today's economic troubles on a president who was in power almost twenty years ago. Especially considering that compared to President Cheney ( OOC: :) ), Bush was downright progressive. You could just as easily claim it was President Cuomo, although I'm assuming that you're politics would preclude that statement.

I think the main PODs to butterfly the depression are already pretty commonly discussed here: probably one or more of: 1) the November 9th attacks, 2) Hurricane Jose, 3) the housing bubble, or maaaaaybe 4) the Cheney vs Gore election in 2004.
 
It's really hard to blame today's economic troubles on a president who was in power almost twenty years ago. Especially considering that compared to President Cheney ( OOC: :) ), Bush was downright progressive. You could just as easily claim it was President Cuomo, although I'm assuming that you're politics would preclude that statement.

I think the main PODs to butterfly the depression are already pretty commonly discussed here: probably one or more of: 1) the November 9th attacks, 2) Hurricane Jose, 3) the housing bubble, or maaaaaybe 4) the Cheney vs Gore election in 2004.


Gore gets the 25 votes Cheney got in Florida? does Gore put in FDR like New Deal policies and help the nation get out of the Depression, How do you butterfly the November 9th Attacks (OOC: Im assuming these were like 9/11?) Hurricane Jose or the Housing Bubble?


well remember the nation plunged into the Depression August 19, 1992, so obviously Reagan and Bush's economic policies caused a big part in putting the nation into this Depression, would A Clinton presidency have changed anything?
 
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It's really hard to blame today's economic troubles on a president who was in power almost twenty years ago. Especially considering that compared to President Cheney ( OOC: :) ), Bush was downright progressive. You could just as easily claim it was President Cuomo, although I'm assuming that you're politics would preclude that statement.

Do you see Cuomo serving 2 terms in TTL? President Cheney? When, 2005-2009? A Cheney presidency is less likely in TTL then it was in OTL.

I think the main PODs to butterfly the depression are already pretty commonly discussed here: probably one or more of: 1) the November 9th attacks, 2) Hurricane Jose, 3) the housing bubble, or maaaaaybe 4) the Cheney vs Gore election in 2004.

Gore gets the 25 votes Cheney got in Florida? does Gore put in FDR like New Deal policies and help the nation get out of the Depression, How do you butterfly the November 9th Attacks (OOC: Im assuming these were like 9/11?) Hurricane Jose or the Housing Bubble?

well remember the nation plunged into the Depression August 19, 1992, so obviously Reagan and Bush's economic policies caused a big part in putting the nation into this Depression, would A Clinton presidency have changed anything?

You just destroyed youir DBWI (you should have left out the Bush caused a great depression sillyness), for if said depression did begin on 8-19-92 (and what on earth happened in the 2 months after your POD to plunge the nation into one?), then Bush certainly would not have won reelection less then 3 months later.

To answer your last question in character . . .

A Clinton presidency would have saved America and the world from twelve years of Cuomo & Gore! Thank Goodness the Romney - Ryan team won in 2008 and that the GOP took back the House in 2010. R - R - Re-election & the Senate too in '12. Hope and Change We Casn Believe In!
 
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You just destroyed youir DBWI (you should have left out the Bush caused a great depression sillyness), for if said depression did begin on 8-19-92 (and what on earth happened in the 2 months after your POD to plunge the nation into one?), then Bush certainly would not have won reelection less then 3 months later.

To answer your last question in character . . .

A Clinton presidency would have saved America and the world from twelve years of Cuomo & Gore! Thank Goodness the Romney - Ryan team won in 2008 and that the GOP took back the House in 2010. R - R - Re-election & the Senate too in '12. Hope and Change We Casn Believe In!

OOC: I was thinking the Depression was already coming in 93, however they did not know about it, so I guess I did screw up my DBWI cause even if Clinton was elected in this TL it would have gone into a Depression, and I meant 8-19-93 not 92, I wanted to spice it up from a regular DBWI, so I threw in the Depression part
 
Do you see Cuomo serving 2 terms in TTL? President Cheney? When, 2005-2009? A Cheney presidency is less likely in TTL then it was in OTL.


OOC: That was really intended as a challenge to the next person, to fill in the blanks.
It seems to be standard in DBWI's to accept the truth of what previous posters have said, and then try to justify those facts and build on them. I chose Cheney having been elected as a particularly difficult challenge.

NOTE: This is also true if said facts disagree with unstated facts in the mind of the original poster. It's much more fun to provide a hint, and let the others build upon it, than to have to try to retcon those facts to fit in with what you think would happen. I've learned this the hard way.

OOC: I was thinking the Depression was already coming in 93, however they did not know about it, so I guess I did screw up my DBWI cause even if Clinton was elected in this TL it would have gone into a Depression, and I meant 8-19-93 not 92, I wanted to spice it up from a regular DBWI, so I threw in the Depression part

OOC: Why would the economy have gone into Depression even at that point? Did Clinton do something at the beginning of his first term which would have kept some inevitable depression from happening during his very first year? There wasn't even enough time for most tax laws to have gone into effect.

Even if it did go into depression, why would that depression have lasted twenty years? You'd think that eventually it'd start to work itself out.

While I'm willing to agree that Reagan-style economics is somewhat 'magical thinking', and executive policies with unforeseen consequences can effect the economy in the long term, I subscribe to the viewpoint that the economy does not turn at the sole command of one president and his administration -- if it did it would be a lot easier to catch problems and fix our responses.

Sorry, but I think you might need a version 3.0.
 
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OOC: God damnit, you people just shoot down every ATL history idea I have, every single darn time guys, every single darn time it makes me so mad that all my ATL history ideas are deemed as ASB, Impossible, Unrealistic and such, makes me so mad :mad:
 
Patience, it will come to you. I found very early on that it was better to sit back and watch what the board then to throw every little idea I have at it and watch it get thrown out the window.

Or, you could go somewhere else and find your ideas all agreed to by yes-people.
 
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