DBWI: Virginia seceded from the Union

If Virginia secedes the ACW will...

  • ...end with a delayed Union victory

  • ....end with the Union defeated and the South independent

  • ...be bloodier but roughly end around the same time as OTL

  • ...end in a stalemate/white peace


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Virginia makes Confederate victory merely extremely unlikely rather than imposible but its STILL EXTREMELY unlikely
Right. VA has industry, but nowhere near what the North can muster. The war would be longer and bloodier, but short of the Rebs actually occupying Washington (and remember that there would be fucktons of Virginian Unionists slowing the Rebs down) it's only delaying the inevitable.
 

Saphroneth

Banned
I think we're assuming the whole state except the DC forts.
What, Fort Washington and that's it?

People like to say "DC Forts", but really there was only one. The protection Washington had was that it was hundreds of miles away from the front lines - it's a persistent American habit, to ridiculously underspend on defence in peacetime, and that always hits forts the hardest.
 
What, Fort Washington and that's it?

People like to say "DC Forts", but really there was only one. The protection Washington had was that it was hundreds of miles away from the front lines - it's a persistent American habit, to ridiculously underspend on defence in peacetime, and that always hits forts the hardest.
I think he means the major Northern Virginian towns, like Alexandria and Arlington.
 

Saphroneth

Banned
Right, I forgot most were made in the 6 months after the war started.
...no, there weren't any. There was no need.


I think he means the major Northern Virginian towns, like Alexandria and Arlington.
Oh, right, I suppose if Virginia had seceded then there might have been some fort building there. Kind of cheating to assume that the areas you need forts for would conveniently not secede, though..
 
I think he means the major Northern Virginian towns, like Alexandria and Arlington.

No I literally meant forts. Arlington might stay in the hands of the North. DC would be threatened immediately. If the North can get a small breather in time for the engineers to get working, they can protect the capital and wait while the Army of Richmond (perhaps called the Army of Washington here) gets assembled.
 
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