DBWI Ukraine not a jewish majority country

45 million people

Maybe it was due to their Kazar forbearers, maybe it was a way to reject Russian domination and tyranny but out of 45 million Ukrainians 78.% of them are jewish, 12% are athiests, followed by the Catholic's and other branches and then dispite pograms, dispite generations of persecution dispite it all only 4 percent of the population is orthodox Christian and most of those are greek orthodox not Russian.

I don't know why the Russian attempts to convert Ukraine failed and backfired so horribly but the fact remains that dispite pograms, the holocaust and other disasters it still contains more jews then any other country on earth.

But what if the Russian efforts to convert the Ukrainians worked what would the Ukraine look like if it wasn't a jewish majority region? How would that change its history? Russian history and world history?
 
While modern Jewish Ukrainians claim the Khazars as spiritual forebears, most Ukrainian Jews are Ashkenazi.

If you want to avoid Ukraine being majority Jewish, I think you'd need to avoid the mass relocation of the Jews of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth to the Crimean Khanate. One the Tsar's government got the idea of sticking all the Jews on the frontier vulnerable to Ottoman raids, the region became a center of Jewish cultural life.
 
Huh, what would the effects of there not being a Jewish homeland in Ukraine be for the Jews of Europe and the Mideast? Millions migrated there during pogroms elsewhere, especially after the Rabbinate of Kiev assumed central authority in the nation when the Cossacks were defeated by the Austro-Hungarians at Odessa in 1786. Would the Jews remain a persecuted minority in their home nations instead of largely leaving and settling in Ukraine?
 
It probably began when Vladimir ben Sviatoslav converted to Judaism in 986 as a way to consolidate the remaining Rus' territory in Khazaria. While Vladimir was soon deposed by the Novgorodian druzhina in favor of Yaropolk, Vladimir managed to convert most of Kiev and the Pecheneg lands, as well as his retinue and the lords of several important settlements. This short-lived episode nonetheless created the origins of Jewish Ukraine, which expanded in later centuries.
 
IOTL, the Jews of the Kievan Principate were more than willing to submit to the Mongols as part of the Mongol Empire in exchange for protection from the Christian Crusaders(who had just destroyed the Jew's traditional ally in Lithuania) forming the Khanate of Golden Khazaria. This client state enabled the Mongols to project far further North than they otherwise, burning Rus' settlements as far as the River Moskva. Thus, as we all know, the only city to benefit from the long-term movement of people north and to gain promenance over everything north of Lithuania and Khazaria (which they, after the dissolution of the Mongol empire, called Ukranya since it was the borderland between Slavic and turko-Mongolic culture) was Novgorod, which flourished as a trade city and developed into the powerful, technologically advanced yet isolated mercantile republic we know today. Had the neo-Khazarian Jews in the Ukraine not facilitated northerly expeditions and raids by the Mongols, a much more autocratic Rus' prince--possibly of Vladimir or Tver--might have expanded outwards, or Russia might have remained a patch-water of states isolated from the European mainstream for a long time.
 
do you guys think that Ukraine would have given up their nukes after the soviet union collapsed if they had been an orthodox country?

There was a lot of pressure by both Russia and the west for them to give them up with promises of protection if they did that, but Ukrainian government officials listed numerous Russian atrocities against them through out history as a reason why they would never give up their soviet era nukes.

Do you think those religious factors were the reason why they held onto them so tightly?
 
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