DBWI: The Greatest Confederate American.

Who is the greatest Confederate American?


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((OOC: Based on the Discovery Channel Show/Survey a few years back))

Tonight The Discover Channel will announce the results for the nation wide survey for Greatest Confederate American. The top 75 were chosen over a period of several months. The Top 25 Nominees were then voted over the next month. Now the results for top ten will be announced.

The nominees announced last week were.

Jefferson Davis (President)
Robert E. Lee (Revolutionary general)
George W. Bush (President)
William J. Clinton (Senator)
Judah Philip Benjamin (Secretary of State/Ambassador)
Elvis Presley (Gospel Singer)
Thomas Jefferson (Honorary Confederate American)
George Washington (Honorary Confederate American)
Cassius Marcellus Clay (Civil Rights Activist)
William Franklin Graham (President)

So who do you think will get what position? Who will be voted, Greatest Confederate America?
 
George Washington. For being all around awesome. Oh and, he's a major reason why we have a Presidential Democracy rather than a dictatorship.
 
Elvis Presley. The end of segregation, end of interference in the Caribbean nations, end of the deployment of Confederate troops to Europe, unprecedented economic growth. The only thing you can really say bad about him is that he increased Presidential power with the whole three terms thing.

EDIT: OOC: Damnit, why'd you have to put their "professions" next to them? :( Ignore my post.
 
Thomas Jefferson. He layed down what became the founding principals of this nation. Freedom and liberty, although the former was not fully realized until the abolition of slavery in the early 20th Century.
 

Onyx

Banned
Judah Benjamin - He deserves some respect for getting the Brits and French to help us in the war, if it wasn't for him, we'd either lose the war, or become a third-world country. God Bless that Jew!
 
Cassius Marcellus Clay - which one?

Actually that is a very good question. I had assumed that we were talking about the colored (OOC: I'm not a racist) one who was a major Civil Rights leader in the 70s and 80s. However the white one from the late 1800s (who the colored one was named after) was the founder of the National Association for the Emancipation of Negroes (NAEN) which ultimately led to the abolition of slavery in 1913. Does anyone know which one the Discovery Channel is refering to? I would guess the more recent one, but I could be wrong.
 
Uh, you do know the Bush family is from Connecticut?

The poll is pretty revealing of the foibles of CSA admirers. Clay somehow doesn't become Ali, the Ivy League Bushes still manage to pass themselves off as Texan, two of the strongest of critics of slavery and believers in a strong union who died long before the CSA ever existed somehow become Confederates, and MLK doesn't even make the final cut.
 
Cassius Marcellus Clay - which one?

((OOC: I was unaware that there were two. :p. OTL Muhammad Ali))

Uh, you do know the Bush family is from Connecticut?

The poll is pretty revealing of the foibles of CSA admirers. Clay somehow doesn't become Ali, the Ivy League Bushes still manage to pass themselves off as Texan, two of the strongest of critics of slavery and believers in a strong union who died long before the CSA ever existed somehow become Confederates, and MLK doesn't even make the final cut.

((OOC: Please use OOC when talking OOC. ANd to answer your questions. 1: In this TL Christianity is pretty much one of the few religions in The CSA. In such a Christian
Conservative nation, Christianity and Judaism may be the only major religions. Thus no Islam in CSA. Thus Clay does not become Ali. 2: That was my bad on the Bush thing. I forgot they weren't native Texans. However, The Bush Family has long time been conservative and it is very likely that they emigrated to The CSA ITTL. 3: It was already getting ASB enough having Clinton, Bush and Elvis be the same/similar jobs/roles ITTL. So I decided to give "The Civil Rights Leader" gig to someone other than MLK. Should be noted. I love MLK. Great man, Great American.))
 

Fox of Ages

Banned
I'm Voting for General Lee...

because he wasn't just a great General, but a Great Man...
and he was a Spokesman for Emancipation...

I Honor his Name to this day...hell i think the Yanks up north have Respect for him also...

Past that, of course Washington, Elvis, and Jefferson are On Top of My List...

but Lee is the One that Stands out as the Greatest Confederate Citizen
 
I for one am Outraged Presley is on there, but Not Nathan Bedford Forrest III or Chester Nimitz!

The two of them are greater Confederates than some musician.
 
I for one am Outraged Presley is on there, but Not Nathan Bedford Forrest III or Chester Nimitz!

The two of them are greater Confederates than some musician.

Only "great" in the sense of holding great power, if you overlook his role as the first Grand Wizard of the KKK.

That plus his massacre of surrendered soldiers at Ft Pillow.

...and his making his fortune as a slave trader.

There are a dozen generals his equal or better one could choose. Why choose one of the most morally repulsive and vicious men of the time?
 
What, no mention of Booker T. Washington, the Great Pacifier? The man's work since his manumission in bridging the culture divide between Negroes and white men may have prevented a slave uprising and allowed the gradual manumission policies to go through!
 
Only "great" in the sense of holding great power, if you overlook his role as the first Grand Wizard of the KKK.

That plus his massacre of surrendered soldiers at Ft Pillow.

...and his making his fortune as a slave trader.

There are a dozen generals his equal or better one could choose. Why choose one of the most morally repulsive and vicious men of the time?

OOC: If we're assuming a CS victory here, would there BE a KKK? :confused:
 
Only "great" in the sense of holding great power, if you overlook his role as the first Grand Wizard of the KKK.

That plus his massacre of surrendered soldiers at Ft Pillow.

...and his making his fortune as a slave trader.

There are a dozen generals his equal or better one could choose. Why choose one of the most morally repulsive and vicious men of the time?

OOC: You do realize what a DBWI is, right?
 
Only "great" in the sense of holding great power, if you overlook his role as the first Grand Wizard of the KKK.

That plus his massacre of surrendered soldiers at Ft Pillow.

...and his making his fortune as a slave trader.

There are a dozen generals his equal or better one could choose. Why choose one of the most morally repulsive and vicious men of the time?

OOC:What?
I'm talking about Nathan Bedford Forest III. the orignal's Grandson?
The WWII General?
You know, OTL Brigader General in the Air force?
No?
considering how out there that post was, you probably have no idea what's going on here.
 
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