DBWI: The America Series is ending

So...the last book of the America series has been announced for March. For those who haven't read it, Mark Washington's Americaverse takes place in a TL where the failed American Revolt in the late 1770's suceeded, and all of the British North American colonies (including Canada, even) became an independent "United States of America" ruled by rebel leader George Washington (one of Mr. Washington's ancestors, incidentally). "America" went on to be a highly sucessful nation, industralizing rapidly, freeing its slaves in the 1830's with minimal bloodshed and taking the northern two-thirds of Mexico in a war with that country. In a war with a Spanish-Portuguese union, America takes the entire Spanish Caribbean and the Phillpines plus Spanish Gabon and the Portuguese North African colonies, and later buys the French, British, and Dutch Caribbean after those countries are bankrupted by a global war in the 1930's. All of these areas become "states" of the "United States", and the last book, The Great War for Civilization, will focus on the upcoming conflict between America, Leader of the Free World, and the totalitarian Chinese Empire.

So...what do you guys think of the Americaverse? And, since we haven't had a discussion on it in a while, could Washington's failed uprising have worked, and what might have happened if it had? Might British America have become independent earlier than OTL, as one unit, and under a Republican government?

Thoughts?
 

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The idea is interesting, but to me it seems like wish fulfillment to me. Mark Washington's ancestors has success in rebelling and over 200 years later they become one of the world's great powers.
 
Especially when a good number of the end goals-a generally prosperous, fairly equal English-dominated Western World-were achieved by the benevolent rule of the British Crown, especially once the King accepted Franklin's Albany Plan rather than deal with potential French intervention during the revolt. Total transference.
 
So...the last book of the America series has been announced for March. For those who haven't read it, Mark Washington's Americaverse takes place in a TL where the failed American Revolt in the late 1770's suceeded, and all of the British North American colonies (including Canada, even) became an independent "United States of America" ruled by rebel leader George Washington (one of Mr. Washington's ancestors, incidentally). "America" went on to be a highly sucessful nation, industralizing rapidly, freeing its slaves in the 1830's with minimal bloodshed and taking the northern two-thirds of Mexico in a war with that country. In a war with a Spanish-Portuguese union, America takes the entire Spanish Caribbean and the Phillpines plus Spanish Gabon and the Portuguese North African colonies, and later buys the French, British, and Dutch Caribbean after those countries are bankrupted by a global war in the 1930's. All of these areas become "states" of the "United States", and the last book, The Great War for Civilization, will focus on the upcoming conflict between America, Leader of the Free World, and the totalitarian Chinese Empire.

So...what do you guys think of the Americaverse? And, since we haven't had a discussion on it in a while, could Washington's failed uprising have worked, and what might have happened if it had? Might British America have become independent earlier than OTL, as one unit, and under a Republican government?

Thoughts?

It's alright, but it's basically a largely redone "America the Beautiful"(Martina Sobel's masterpiece trilogy from 1992-97), with some twists and turns.....many of them far-fetched at that.

The sad thing is, it took Columbia until 1897 to fully illegalize slavery and even then, it lingered on until 1909 in some places(yet the Mexican Republic banned it in 1848 with no real problems. And Canada never had any slaves to begin with by the time *they* broke off pf Britain.). A republican *America would almost certainly not have as many troubles eliminating the practice but 1838 seems a little too optimistic, TBH.

And Equal? If you were a white man, yes. But not for women or those of non-European descent until the 1950s in many places. And the "prosperity" in Australia, India, South Africa, etc. was almost solely in the hands of upper-middle-class whites until at least the turn of the last century; before then, very few Indians, or Chinese, or Arabs, ever got any higher than middle class and that was in the more egalitarian places. Most, sadly, were forced to live in squalid slums with little clean water, no heating, etc.; I'm sure some of you have probably read some Dickens by now, right? All Columbian high school students are required to read a certain few of his books, such as(and perhaps especially!) The Merchant's Daughter.

(P.S., btw, here's a little trivia: Mark Washington's real name is actually John Houlton, and he used to be a military affairs expert; and yes, George Washington is an ancestor of his, but the last male-line ancestor in his family with that surname was born in 1862.).
 
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So...what do you guys think of the Americaverse? And, since we haven't had a discussion on it in a while, could Washington's failed uprising have worked, and what might have happened if it had? Might British America have become independent earlier than OTL, as one unit, and under a Republican government?

Not as he did it. The weird little retcon about Florida was kinda funny though. "Oops, we forgot something, let's just pass it off to Spain, and pretend like it hadn't been British in the first place, and conquer it later."

Sobel's books were much better. Especially that collection of short stories she edited and contributed to about the rest of the Americas, and that came out what, ten years ago?
 
Not as he did it. The weird little retcon about Florida was kinda funny though. "Oops, we forgot something, let's just pass it off to Spain, and pretend like it hadn't been British in the first place, and conquer it later."

Sobel's books were much better. Especially that collection of short stories she edited and contributed to about the rest of the Americas, and that came out what, ten years ago?

Sobel also managed to pull off a rather plausible and well-explained annexation of Mexico & Central America, and even managed to wank Canada a little at the same time. And she also explained how she got slavery to end in 1869 versus 1897 IOTL.

There were really so many things she did well, it's hard to count them all without spending hours talking about it. :cool:

Washington, OTOH, largely just slapped some stuff together, borrowed a few ideas, and called it a day.....the narrative was actually pretty good but the worldbuilding left a lot to be desired.....:(
 
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