DBWI: Texas secedes during ACW

IOTL, the state of Texas came close to seceding during the American Civil War. Fortunately, Sam Houston successfully campaigned to keep the state in the Union. What would happen if Texas had joined the CSA?
 
It's almost ASB to imagine, but I don't want to be one of THOSE GUYS so hmm. Even during the OTL Civil War the Comanches managed to push quite far back into Texas, as Army and Ranger assets were withdrawn from the frontier. In a Confederate Texas scenario that would only be a bigger issue. In the early years of the Republic raids almost reached as far as Austin - maybe the first people to sack the Texas capital won't be Yankees, but Comanches. I doubt the Confederates could deploy any real response, so maybe you'd see Texans deserting en masse to protect the homestead.

But maybe the CSA won't mind all that, because Texas adds an enormous amount of coastline. The Union's blockade strategy just got that much harder, if not impossible.
 
IOTL, the state of Texas came close to seceding during the American Civil War. Fortunately, Sam Houston successfully campaigned to keep the state in the Union. What would happen if Texas had joined the CSA?

I'm afraid it'd really hurt us in the long run, TBH: for one, much of the rest of the South(except south Florida and southern Louisiana) was badly wrecked during the Civil War, and, as it was, as bad as the fighting got here-the opposition government that took over Washington-on-the Brazos and held much of East Texas was rather brutal as it was, massacring every Unionist and/or anti-slavery sympathizer, and runaway slave & free African-American(whatever few lived here) they could find; supposedly Jefferson Davis was taken aback, but a fat lot of good that did, obviously. (Honestly, there's a damned good reason why Austin, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas and Fort Worth all have museums dedicated to talking about pro-Confederate war crimes!) And yet, a Confederate Texas might have done even worse.....and been rather worse off after the war.

At least by 1880 we were a fully functioning state again(well, by and large-though the western frontier didn't totally settle down until the turn of the 20th century) whereas Alabama and Mississippi in particular never recovered fully. And despite the fact that we weren't immune from poor treatment of Native Americans in particular(yes, it got a fair bit nasty in the 1890s, especially against the Comanche, who were-even if unfairly-seen as tools of the "Confederate Menace", thanks to the Civil War era raids), and the shameful Japanese Exclusion Act of 1898(repealed 1917) we at least were-despite our own problems-rather less unkind to black folks and Latinos than in many other Southern States; segregation was a problem up until the 1950s but, outside a few counties(mostly in the east), we never had Jim Crow segregation.
 
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I just can't see it... I mean, you had Sam Houston of all people speaking against leaving the Union, that was the nail in the coffin for any attempt by Texas to join the CSA.
 
I just can't see it... I mean, you had Sam Houston of all people speaking against leaving the Union, that was the nail in the coffin for any attempt by Texas to join the CSA.

Precisely this. Even after Governor Houston proclaimed that Texas would respect President Lincoln's declaration of the Emancipation Proclamation, not that many people defected to the Confederate side-by that point, the Rebels were already doing damage out east, and had just destroyed the town of La Grange, a crime which angered many people(especially as forty people were outright murdered).
 
Texas has always been a large ethnic mix of Anglos, German settlers, Hispanic Tejanos and even native Apache and Commanche who were close to integrated at least in the German hill country. Many of those groups were if not abolitionist, then at least pro-union. I shudder at the thoughts of all of them being forced into the Confederate kaste system. Before too long, Texas would have its own civil war and the confederacy would have to send more troops to Fredericksburg then it did to Shiloh...
 
Texas has always been a large ethnic mix of Anglos, German settlers, Hispanic Tejanos and even native Apache and Commanche who were close to integrated at least in the German hill country. Many of those groups were if not abolitionist, then at least pro-union. I shudder at the thoughts of all of them being forced into the Confederate kaste system. Before too long, Texas would have its own civil war and the confederacy would have to send more troops to Fredericksburg then it did to Shiloh...
Yea, Sam Houston would have formed a Unionist government-in-exile if Texas had decided to secede with the support of said groups of people.
 
Their would be a lot more fighting in Arkansas and Louisiana I'm sure. The confederate forces in the area weren't able to withstand being attacked from two (later three) sides and simply didn't have the resources (especially food outside of corn) to feed themselves.
If Texas does join, would the "Indian territory" join the CSA too you think? Many were sympathetic to them but the lack friendly territory prevented them from joining. Not sure how large of an impact these Native troops would have but they could be useful none the less.
Could California possibly be up for grabs with a Confederate Texas?
 
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