DBWI: SquareSoft had made Final Fantasy VII for the PlayStation?

[Nivek]

I remember when the Nintendo 64 first came out in 1996, nobody could figure out why there was this unusual connector on the back of the machine. We finally knew why at CES in January 1997, when Nintendo showed (and shipped later that year) the CD optical disk drive subsystem that used that connector, which made it possible for Square to release Final Fantasy VII on the Nintendo 64, a game that literally drove Nintendo 64 sales to record heights.

Though successful, that system was still a tad kludgy to use. Nintendo fixed that problem with the Gamecube in 2000, which put the an updated version of the Nintendo 64 game console hardware and CD drive onto a single chassis (OOC: essentially almost like the Japan-only Panasonic Q but in sleeker package) and got rid of the hardware cartridges. Mind you, it was a bit strange to play Nintendo's internally-developed game titles from a CD disk instead of a cartridge, though people used to playing RPG's and fighting games from Square and Namco were used to this.

I still remember what a huge risk it was for Nintendo to unveil the now-landmark Famicom 128 in 2007. It had a lot of very state-of-the-art hardware, especially the Blu-ray drive, 60 or 120 GB internal hard drive, HDMI output to HDTV's, full broadband Internet connectivity and the optional remote controller (OOC: the original Wii remote) that forced game designers to rethink almost from scratch how players interacted with games. It wasn't cheap, but in the end just the huge leap forward in storage capability (game disc and local storage on console) made it possible for Square Enix's landmark Final Fantasy XIII and XIV RPG's, Activision's Call of Duty first-person shooters, Bandai Namco's Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Xillia RPG's and of course EA Sports' Madden NFL American football and FIFA association football games, all of which took advantage of that unusual controller. This year (2014), the new Famicom 128 Series II has even more powerful graphics, 16 GB of RAM, a 1 TB hard drive and even support for HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 connections, hinting at the possibility that it could display Ultra HD graphics some time in the near future. The long-awaited Square Enix Final Fantasy XV (in both single player and multiplayer versions) and the Bandai Namco Tales of Zestiria are third-party showcase titles for the new system (along with Nintendo's internally-developed latest installment of the Legend of Zelda franchise coming in 2015), with graphics so realistic it feels like playing a "live" Pixar movie. (By the way, the newest version of Mario Kart on the Famicom 128 Series II has such realistic first-person view of motion that some people express concern it could cause motion sickness on a large-screen HDTV.)

And to think how the video game industry would be so wildly different had Square chose Sony's PlayStation instead of the Nintendo 64 with CD drive subsystem to release Final Fantasy VII in 1997....

Gamecube was the prototype Name, was Named at the end Starcube to make sense with the Starroad Navigation and online service,years that not heard that name. And people still think Mother And Fire emblem were of Square(well, were co published under the Squaresoft logo in the west but where full first party game).

Umm Talking About Realistic graphics, who Got Bayonetta 2 yesterday? the game was so impresive and the bundled trailer for the movie blow me away, i think that was game cgi was movie one until say the Live Acted Bayonetta.

Talking About Namco...they would still Merged with Enix and Sammy(to for ENS and lader ENST when got Tailto and later ENEST when got Eidos) or would be on their own? they would still be the anime game factory like otl?

 

[woweed]

Umm Talking About Realistic graphics, who Got Bayonetta 2 yesterday? the game was so impresive and the bundled trailer for the movie blow me away, i think that was game cgi was movie one until say the Live Acted Bayonetta.

I know, right? I still can't believe they found an actress who actually fit Bayonetta's body without CGI!

 

[Nivek]

I know, right? I still can't believe they found an actress who actually fit Bayonetta's body without CGI!

And More Importat, they Manage to do the Umbra Climax and Wickes Waves flawesly with the actress(and keep the whole hair clothes and the actress never flattered, that is being sure of oneself), waiting to be 2015 now

 

[SactoMan101]

If I remember correctly, due to the initial high cost of the Famicom 128 in 2007 (US$599 with 60 GB HD and US$679 with the 120 GB HD), Nintendo continued to manufacture and sell the Starcube (thanks for the correction!) until 2010, when Panasonic (who manufactured the Famicom 128 for Nintendo) was able to drastically lower the price of the Famicom 128 thanks to lower component costs.

 

[Nivek]

If I remember correctly, due to the initial high cost of the Famicom 128 in 2007 (US$599 with 60 GB HD and US$679 with the 120 GB HD), Nintendo continued to manufacture and sell the Starcube (thanks for the correction!) until 2010, when Panasonic (who manufactured the Famicom 128 for Nintendo) was able to drastically lower the price of the Famicom 128 thanks to lower component costs.

Nintendo Not lied when they say that was the 'third pillar' as a 'Adult and Innovative console' when selling Starcube now cheaper to children and teenager and Handled to game in the go, and that the console would be supported for a decade, seems easily would be still supported even with the new Famicom 128 Model 2 in the market, even with the upcoming exclusives(well Final Fantasy XV still is single player only in vanilla 128 but the game only enjoy with friend in the chaotic battle system).

I got other stuff, as Today was the Annoucement of Starfox CGI movie, how miyamoto was working heavily with the Storyboard and script, if not for sucessful N64, would Nintendo have not open Nintendo EAD America in Texas after purchasing retro studios?(and Miyamoto moving there, to work in Metroid, Starfox and others) and later to oversee nintendo movies? that would kill all nintendo movies anyway

(OOC: i'm basing that how miyamoto drawed the storyboard for pikmin short via flipnote studio, that is pure talent fellas)

 

[woweed]

Nintendo Not lied when they say that was the 'third pillar' as a 'Adult and Innovative console' when selling Starcube now cheaper to children and teenager and Handled to game in the go, and that the console would be supported for a decade, seems easily would be still supported even with the new Famicom 128 Model 2 in the market, even with the upcoming exclusives(well Final Fantasy XV still is single player only in vanilla 128 but the game only enjoy with friend in the chaotic battle system).

I got other stuff, as Today was the Annoucement of Starfox CGI movie, how miyamoto was working heavily with the Storyboard and script, if not for sucessful N64, would Nintendo have not open Nintendo EAD America in Texas after purchasing retro studios?(and Miyamoto moving there, to work in Metroid, Starfox and others) and later to oversee nintendo movies? that would kill all nintendo movies anyway

(OOC: i'm basing that how miyamoto drawed the storyboard for pikmin short via flipnote studio, that is pure talent fellas)

Probably

 

[woweed]

I got other stuff, as Today was the Annoucement of Starfox CGI movie, how miyamoto was working heavily with the Storyboard and script, if not for sucessful N64, would Nintendo have not open Nintendo EAD America in Texas after purchasing retro studios?(and Miyamoto moving there, to work in Metroid, Starfox and others) and later to oversee nintendo movies? that would kill all nintendo movies anyway.

Man, that CGI did look amazing, seriously they look real!

 

[SactoMan101]

By the way, when iFixIt took apart a Famicom 128 Series II, the first thing they noticed was how amazingly roomy inside the machine was-- the custom-made AMD 64-bit CPU, motherboard chipset and GPU chipset are only on three chips, the 16 GB RAM is on a separate board (which means potential to upgrade RAM to 32 GB or beyond!) and the 1 TB hard drive is the same 2.5" drive found on notebook computers or slimline desktops. Most of the space was taken up by the Blu-ray drive and cooling components, including a super quiet cooling fan. You can also see the antennas for the 802.11ac Wi-Fi subsystem, too. In the back, there are two HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 ports plus two Thunderbolt 2.0 ports, and in front, connectors for up to four wired game controllers (that's in addition to the wireless game controllers or full keyboard).

Anyway, the success of Nintendo since Square's decision to release Final Fantasy VII on the Nintendo 64 with CD Drive is undeniable--they're just about the most recognizable Japanese company name in the world outside of Toyota, Honda and Panasonic. If you ever visit the historic Japanese city of Kyoto (Nintendo's corporate headquarters), advertisements for the company are everywhere--you already see it even on the Shinkansen train platforms at JR West Kyoto Station, and the Keihan Electric Railway's Keishin and Ishiyama Sakamoto lines have trains that are effectively rolling billboards for Nintendo or game companies with games running on the Famicom 128 or 128 Series II systems.

 

[Tyr]

It would be horrible. Full of FMVs (with real actors? Ugh) and spoken speech- which considering the general quality of translations in the 90s......

 

[Nivek]

By the way, when iFixIt took apart a Famicom 128 Series II, the first thing they noticed was how amazingly roomy inside the machine was-- the custom-made AMD 64-bit CPU, motherboard chipset and GPU chipset are only on three chips, the 16 GB RAM is on a separate board (which means potential to upgrade RAM to 32 GB or beyond!) and the 1 TB hard drive is the same 2.5" drive found on notebook computers or slimline desktops. Most of the space was taken up by the Blu-ray drive and cooling components, including a super quiet cooling fan. You can also see the antennas for the 802.11ac Wi-Fi subsystem, too. In the back, there are two HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 ports plus two Thunderbolt 2.0 ports, and in front, connectors for up to four wired game controllers (that's in addition to the wireless game controllers or full keyboard).

Anyway, the success of Nintendo since Square's decision to release Final Fantasy VII on the Nintendo 64 with CD Drive is undeniable--they're just about the most recognizable Japanese company name in the world outside of Toyota, Honda and Panasonic. If you ever visit the historic Japanese city of Kyoto (Nintendo's corporate headquarters), advertisements for the company are everywhere--you already see it even on the Shinkansen train platforms at JR West Kyoto Station, and the Keihan Electric Railway's Keishin and Ishiyama Sakamoto lines have trains that are effectively rolling billboards for Nintendo or game companies with games running on the Famicom 128 or 128 Series II systems.

Not Only to Nintendo, Square too, even when started to become famous, FFVII they become legends, FF start to outsold DQ in japan since that game and when you got to Akihabara and Shibuya, that is full of Square Merchandising, from Final Fantasy, to Romacing Saga, to others series, would they still become the hit they where?

 

[woweed]

Yep, looks like Apple is starting work on the Smash Bros movie already.

 

[Nivek]

Yep, looks like Apple is starting work on the Smash Bros movie already.

you say Nintendo and Disney right? that was just a teaser, as say we still have Bayo and Star Fox as Leading up, but the message is 'coming soon' would be big, specially with rumors...will not be trophies(obvious as the most 'realisitc' cinematic universe) and some stuff will have deeper twist.

Still, too soon and Phase 2 only have started

 

[woweed]

you say Nintendo and Disney right? that was just a teaser, as say we still have Bayo and Star Fox as Leading up, but the message is 'coming soon' would be big, specially with rumors...will not be trophies(obvious as the most 'realisitc' cinematic universe) and some stuff will have deeper twist.

Still, too soon and Phase 2 only have started

Rember 2 days or so ago?

So.. At 12:00 this morning, Disney brought Apple and Google. Holy Shit! Along with their ownership of Microsoft and IBM, this pretty much means they own Silicon Valley. With discussions about expanding Disneyland out into a separate city, Disney seems to own most of California nowadays.

 

[Nivek]

OOC: too much merger ruined the fun fella, a merger with Disney would have make sense, specialyl one as equals, but this your thread you make the calls.

IC: what would be of Amiibos now? after seeing how high quality are and the upcoming one, both Nitnendo and Disney characther to play in Nintendo Universe, to be figthers in Smash among other, that would be lost too?

 

[woweed]

OOC: too much merger ruined the fun fella, a merger with Disney would have make sense, specialyl one as equals, but this your thread you make the calls.

IC: what would be of Amiibos now? after seeing how high quality are and the upcoming one, both Nitnendo and Disney characther to play in Nintendo Universe, to be figthers in Smash among other, that would be lost too?

OOC: I'm sorry if I ruined the fun, it's mainly a side-effect of my deep affection for Disney, Marvel and Nintendo. Also Bump
Edit:Also a deep affection for California and even more so San Francisco.

 

[Nivek]

OOC: I'm sorry if I ruined the fun, it's mainly a side-effect of my deep affection for Disney, Marvel and Nintendo. Also Bump
Edit:Also a deep affection for California and even more so San Francisco.

OOC:Yeah and as i say before, an alliance of equal would have worked, Nintendo have a pretty good relationship with disney in OTL(the animal crossing clone, mickey licenses in early 00, the free to play version of disney infinity on wii u) and would have work as a mega merger but the other stuff was simple killing the pausability.

We should do a reboot, with Nintendo buying square in 1995(Chrono trigger pushed as hard as donkey kong with nintendo making it a second party) and they pushing hard for CD in N64. What do you think about it?

 

[woweed]

OOC:Yeah and as i say before, an alliance of equal would have worked, Nintendo have a pretty good relationship with disney in OTL(the animal crossing clone, mickey licenses in early 00, the free to play version of disney infinity on wii u) and would have work as a mega merger but the other stuff was simple killing the pausability.

We should do a reboot, with Nintendo buying square in 1995(Chrono trigger pushed as hard as donkey kong with nintendo making it a second party) and they pushing hard for CD in N64. What do you think about it?

OOC: I don't know, my writing skills aren't the best, but then again good idea...

 

[Nivek]

OOC: I don't know, my writing skills aren't the best, but then again good idea...

Stll your thread, was fun for a while

 

[woweed]

Stll your thread, was fun for a while

Yeah, it was and it had best California.

 

[woweed]

OOC:Yeah and as i say before, an alliance of equal would have worked, Nintendo have a pretty good relationship with disney in OTL(the animal crossing clone, mickey licenses in early 00, the free to play version of disney infinity on wii u) and would have work as a mega merger but the other stuff was simple killing the pausability.

We should do a reboot, with Nintendo buying square in 1995(Chrono trigger pushed as hard as donkey kong with nintendo making it a second party) and they pushing hard for CD in N64. What do you think about it?

I might take you up on the offer once A.) You've finished Player 2 Start! and B.) my writing skills improve.